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    I did say Advanced was better, and if you think Blackstar is high quality, then you havent had a good LED light, its made cheaply and without going into greater detail, left me with fear of failure and bottom line did not do what it claimed in my experience. Multiple overhead lights can create a third light of sorts, but will also create uneven growth, which can create a problem, especially in a scrog type grow or bigger. He was referring to supplementing a 24" x 6" grow with CFLs, if thats needed, then I think most growers first response would be you need a bigger light, no matter the light source, please correct me if Im wrong... Im not hating on Advanced at all, in fact they do make a BETTER light than most of the junk on the market, but there is better and more advanced technology, which is changing all the time, being that LED grow lights are still an emerging technology, thats why all Im recommending is to do a little more research. Im not advertising for Hydro-Grow, it was my choice for my style grow, and my budget. It was an example and by no means a THIS IS THE BEST LIGHT scenario. I was just saying that after a lot of research and trial and error, buying a well built, up to date (technology wise) and well designed light was WELL worth the money and research I went through. There is a lot more to consider when plopping down a chunk of cash on a light then what the best output and spectrum is. How about serviceability, longevity, the quality, style and material of lenses, heatsinks and other internal parts, power consumption ratios, heat dispersion etc..etc..etc..
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    Quote Originally Posted by fossil22 View Post
    I did say Advanced was better, and if you think Blackstar is high quality, then you havent had a good LED light, its made cheaply and without going into greater detail, left me with fear of failure and bottom line did not do what it claimed in my experience. Multiple overhead lights can create a third light of sorts, but will also create uneven growth, which can create a problem, especially in a scrog type grow or bigger. He was referring to supplementing a 24" x 6" grow with CFLs, if thats needed, then I think most growers first response would be you need a bigger light, no matter the light source, please correct me if Im wrong... Im not hating on Advanced at all, in fact they do make a BETTER light than most of the junk on the market, but there is better and more advanced technology, which is changing all the time, being that LED grow lights are still an emerging technology, thats why all Im recommending is to do a little more research. Im not advertising for Hydro-Grow, it was my choice for my style grow, and my budget. It was an example and by no means a THIS IS THE BEST LIGHT scenario. I was just saying that after a lot of research and trial and error, buying a well built, up to date (technology wise) and well designed light was WELL worth the money and research I went through. There is a lot more to consider when plopping down a chunk of cash on a light then what the best output and spectrum is. How about serviceability, longevity, the quality, style and material of lenses, heatsinks and other internal parts, power consumption ratios, heat dispersion etc..etc..etc..
    I think here in lies the confusion...the only guy in this thread to mention cfls said to the original poster that, if he's on a budget, then he should go with cfls as opposed to leds. Nobody was talking about supplementing any grow with any extra lights. Thank you for clearing up that advanced makes a "better" light, but I'm still pretty sure that some growers would disagree with your statement that blackstars are junk...they seem to perform well for the price. I agree that the technology is always changing but I honestly don't see one stand out company that is light years ahead of everyone else. Most of the reputable companies released new versions this year that are pretty even with each other. Most definitely careful research should be done before buying on all aspects, of, not only the light arrays themselves, but the company as well.
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    My main light is fine. I already got a 400 HPS, I need supplementation because I'm growing two generations and when my light is at the right for the 5 week old plants it will be too high for the seedlings.
    Currently growing auto assassin, smurfberry, sweet special and la diva.

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    i think you can buy a 288*3W led grow light for you plant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fossil22 View Post
    I did say Advanced was better, and if you think Blackstar is high quality, then you havent had a good LED light, its made cheaply and without going into greater detail, left me with fear of failure and bottom line did not do what it claimed in my experience. Multiple overhead lights can create a third light of sorts, but will also create uneven growth, which can create a problem, especially in a scrog type grow or bigger. He was referring to supplementing a 24" x 6" grow with CFLs, if thats needed, then I think most growers first response would be you need a bigger light, no matter the light source, please correct me if Im wrong... Im not hating on Advanced at all, in fact they do make a BETTER light than most of the junk on the market, but there is better and more advanced technology, which is changing all the time, being that LED grow lights are still an emerging technology, thats why all Im recommending is to do a little more research. Im not advertising for Hydro-Grow, it was my choice for my style grow, and my budget. It was an example and by no means a THIS IS THE BEST LIGHT scenario. I was just saying that after a lot of research and trial and error, buying a well built, up to date (technology wise) and well designed light was WELL worth the money and research I went through. There is a lot more to consider when plopping down a chunk of cash on a light then what the best output and spectrum is. How about serviceability, longevity, the quality, style and material of lenses, heatsinks and other internal parts, power consumption ratios, heat dispersion etc..etc..etc..
    Pretty sure Fossil works for, or gets paid to advertise for Hydro-grow LED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by braaap516 View Post
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