don't do the crime , if you.............you know the rest

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Originally Posted by zoutekoffie
i dont have direct sunlight becouse of the clouds

well u gotta get fame sumhow
not everyone like graff

permission never stopped me

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When it defaces private property, no matter how good it may look, its not art but vandalism.

If Leonardo da Vinci were to appear from the dead and paint the Mona Lisa on the side of my house, I would want him tossed into the clink.

They just caught some "taggers" in my area after more than $100,000 in damage and clean up costs was inflicted on business. They tagged up some business I service and cleaning was a bitch. I am not sure how much time they got, but it was more than a year.

I group vandals in the same group as those who steal your stuff.

Why not allow people to paint public places? I don't think that stuff like this defaces private property, maybe if it was just random tagging. In Amsterdam there is a lot of really cool graffiti I stayed at a hotel one year overlooking a courtyard and a children's school. The playground had a huge graffiti mural, it was very cool and really intricate.

Nobody was complaining about it and the guy did not ask he just painted it.

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If I entered your home when you weren't around and "put my art all over your walls" would you still see it as art? Or maybe on the sides of your vehicle? I don't mean to sound like I want to argue with you, but it all comes down to respecting others property.
If they think it is legit art, paint up sheets of plywood and display it on your own property...Hell, sell them if you can but leave other peoples property alone.

I agree with this 10000000%.

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I understand what you are saying but how many people are breaking into peoples houses to paint?

Tagging which is just ugly vandalism, is different from these works.

Its more about expression and in my experience people will respect your property if you respect them. Various gangs used to tag my aunt's house in San Fran until she came out one day and asked them nicely to stop. Now they just tag her neighbor's house because they call the cops all the time.

I'm just saying we could approach this "problem" in a more intelligent way rather than just throwing people in jail and painting over the same walls over and over.

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Ehhhhhh. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I havent seen any graffiti i think is art. It all just looks like vandalism to me and asking them to stop really is not going to work 98% of the time so....Jail it is. Now if they have permision or are being paid to do it fine......if not.......in the slammer.

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Pretty short sighted IMHO.

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Graffiti (singular: graffito; the plural is used as a mass noun) is the name for images or lettering scratched, scrawled, painted or marked in any manner on property. Graffiti is sometimes regarded as a form of art and other times regarded as unsightly damage or unwanted.
Graffiti is any type of public markings that may appear in the forms of simple written words to elaborate wall paintings. Graffiti has existed since ancient times, with examples dating back to Ancient Greece and the Roman Empire[1]. In modern times, spray paint,normal paint and markers have become the most commonly used materials. In most countries, defacing property with graffiti without the property owner's consent is considered vandalism, which is punishable by law. Sometimes graffiti is employed to communicate social and political messages. To some, it is an art form worthy of display in galleries and exhibitions; to others it is merely vandalism. Graffiti has since evolved into a pop culture existence often related to underground hip hop music and break dancing creating a lifestyle that remains hidden from the general public.[2] Graffiti is used as a gang signal to mark territory or to serve as an indicator or "tag" for gang-related activity. The controversies that surround graffiti continue to create disagreement amongst city officials/ law enforcement and graffitists looking to display their work in public locations. There are many different types and styles of graffiti and it is a rapidly developing artform whose value is highly contested, being reviled by many authorities while also subject to protection, sometimes within the same jurisdiction.



thats the definition right off wikipedia.

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