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Old 06-15-2008, 10:22 AM
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it is extremley common no efect on potencey and of course your yield will be smaller as the plants will be smaller, however you counteract this by having space for more plants, it is VERY common for growers to go 12/12 from seedling, and 12/12 from seed... the best way I have seen is to put small clones str8 into flower no veg time......

Do you hear yourself, the best way to do 12/12 from seed is to do 12/12 from clones??? Damn right it is, thats because the clone comes from a mature plant and keeps it mothers age. I rooted clone is far different from a seed. And i don't give a fuck what international canna anybody says a plant grown 12/12 from seed will not reach it's full potential as it is not allowed to fully mature. I'm sure you can grow great weed that way, but do you honestly think it's as good as it could have been if it was fully mature.

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Old 06-15-2008, 10:34 AM
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Strange how all the new guys have started a hydro hating club.Personally i like a plant which has vegged for 2 months and flowers for 2 months.way more yield and a better potency.If ya dont have patience youll end up wanting.Truthfully yall caught me on a drinking night and i only do that every 6 months.So if thats pissed ya off ya wont see it again for 6 more months.If ya want to keep the grudge thats cool too ill just ignore the people who made the posts!!!!PEACE
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Not a hydro hater here, tried it with a small setup and quickly found that you really need a setup with a decent sized tank to keep PH and nutes ballanced. I had this little homemade setup with a 3-gallon tank from a rubbermaid tote and it was a daily challenge to keep the PH right so I ditched it and went to soil. If I had the space time and $$ for it I would love to try it out for real some day...
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Old 06-15-2008, 02:25 PM
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I was trying to be sarcastic, but it doesn't come across well in the forum sometimes...

I'll bet you get some nice plants with the year-round consistent conditions near the equator

living and growing near the equator we got some of the best plants ever produced in the country, personally i favour the 12/12 cycle i have tried other cycles with growing rooms but the yield is never anywhere near as good as a yield that is grown on a 12/12 cycle outdoors, well thats what i have personally found anyway, my plants when it comes time to harvest they stand over 6 foot tall and anywhere from 3 to foot wide and can get anywhere upto 4 pound off a single plant, 6 pound if ya feed it fertilizers all the time
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So about this whole mother clone age maturity thing... So a older mother (or rather more mature) is a damn good way to go. How big should the mother be and such, and how do you for sure tell maturity in veg? Sorry if its on here, but the topic came up here and by the time i find an answer for my question i'll forget what my question was...
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Old 06-16-2008, 04:51 AM
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Im currently doing a 12/12 from srouts at 3 days. Its moving along nice- will i get the same yeild if i did a 4 week veg...no. But i'm not commercial grower- i'm a med grower, so any decient yeild is good with me. I only go throught maybe a oz a month, so as you cn see i'm not a huge smoker. As far as potency goes, from all i've read, and trust me i research everything, potency is NOT effected, only yeild. Look at my journal if ya want, i'm at week 6-7 or so, the buds look nice and i expect it to be a decient yeild when done. The plants are 2 afghan kush and 3 nevelles haze x sour NL ...we'll see, but i kinda like this style, but thats just my opinion

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Do you hear yourself, the best way to do 12/12 from seed is to do 12/12 from clones??? Damn right it is, thats because the clone comes from a mature plant and keeps it mothers age. I rooted clone is far different from a seed. And i don't give a fuck what international canna anybody says a plant grown 12/12 from seed will not reach it's full potential as it is not allowed to fully mature. I'm sure you can grow great weed that way, but do you honestly think it's as good as it could have been if it was fully mature.

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thats not what I said, so what is the point of your quote and message?? perhaps you should step away from the blunt for a while... or maybe my point went over your head.... the best way I have seen to implement an early 12/12 is to take a clone and put it str8 in flower with no veg time... that being said you CAN accomplish gr8 results going 12/12 from seed... i have done both so I am not speaking from something I have read but from my own experience
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I've got very liimited space and nowhere to keep a clone.

So what about growing 12/12 from seed until you can sex them, remove the males and return to 24 hour cycle.

Is this possible? How long would it take to revert to vegitative stage?
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I've got very liimited space and nowhere to keep a clone.

So what about growing 12/12 from seed until you can sex them, remove the males and return to 24 hour cycle.

Is this possible? How long would it take to revert to vegitative stage?
It's possible, but it causes stress. If you have a good strong strain, then it will just stop growing for a while, then take off and veg like a champ. Otherwise, it could hermaphrodite on you or just turn out stressed and weak. Genetics play a big part here...
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wow! thats perfect for me! im gonna start my seedlings on 12/12 right now!
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I have grown stuff with 12/12 immediately before,its just smaller.
Theres definitely no noticable loss of potency.
I will post a pic of one of mine in a minute.
I don't do it anymore as i want better yields but if you only have very limited space it works just fine
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