Please set me straight - HID lights - Page 2

bfq · #11 05-29-2008, 04:11 PM

they do make switchable ballasts for MH and HPS, but they cost more and are not the standard... and as i am sure you guessed, a floro ballast is not the same

gotcha1st · #12 05-29-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bong...James Bong

makes sense...

actually the one i just went to had a 400w hps bulb, but all the ballasts that they had (at least that i saw) were for floros.

and wait mh and hps need different ballasts??!?!

i've been between getting all the stuff i need myself from home depot or something and just putting it together or just getting it from htgsupply. and the one i was looking at had all the stuff, hps bulb, hood, ballast, and had an option of coming with an extra mh bulb, so i would need another ballast for that? i thought i could just switch out the bulbs.

Ya they make a switchable ballasts.1 ballast for both mh and hps.

SouthernOregonOrganic · #13 05-29-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ugmjfarmer

I'm pretty sure if you stick to 250 watts of High Pressure Sodium (HPS) nobody will knock down your door. Thats just too small a discrepancy to be anything particularly huge. Shit, if you buy a new desktop computer these days your looking at a 200w draw on idle. When playing a game, most computers run 350-500w or more! thats huge compared to what a 250w HPS could do for a small 2-4 plant garden.

Veg with T5's or CFL's. T5's will probably be enough light to get everything going, and for around 100w of power your golden.

All in all, probably a setup like this will cost you around $12 a month to run, and when done right can supply 2-4 oz of dry bud every 2 months. I dunno about you, but when you have some nice green sticky of that kinda weight, your usually set for more than a month. My personal use is 3.5g / week rolled, 3.5g / month when 1 hitting.

I personally use about 14 hundred watts of lighting power, one 1000watt hps and one 400 watt hps. Iv had no problems with power consumption. I think unless your running like a dozen 1000watt lamps you wont ever get a knock on your door from authorities or your land lord.

SouthernOregonOrganic · #14 05-29-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gotcha1st

Ya they make a switchable ballasts.1 ballast for both mh and hps.

YEAH BUDDY!! switchable is where its at!!

panhead · #15 05-29-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SparkeySTi

My understanding is this. You want phat buds

Whats a "phat" bud,i dont think ive ever seen one

SparkeySTi · #16 05-29-2008, 09:06 PM

Lol, i r not gud at teh esplainin.

No, im not as clueless as im sure i sound. To set the record straight, no i dont think a crop takes two weeks... god no. And 2 months, i havent heard of, i've heard of 3 months for quick.

And a "Phat" bud (pronounced FAT) is a nice dense, good smoking, quality bud. Nice ratio of stem to bud and such...

And back at BFG, as i stated, i've researched this for a solid year now. I've been researching the growing of shrooms for a few years, and pot every so often. But now that im out of the parents house, its time for quality growin. So i looked up soil growing, then learned hydro, then found DWC. Then SoG. And im a REAL visual person. So i can read 100 grow ops, with full details, and possibly not get anything from it unless i have pictues to look at with it. So i have the large details, but have some issues i really need some specifics on that im researching now that im here. IE. Lighting. I've read stuff about 1000w HPS and all this... and thats not what i want, so i thought HPS was bad. But now that i've had people tell me theres 250 w, and even with CFL and such, its gona equal the same current pull and such, i understand, if i want worthy PHAT buds, i want HPS.

Now im researching mother plants, cloning, and nutes. Then i'll know more then i want to about growing bud.

And im growing currently really. Its a soil grow i took over for someone. They nute burnt the fuck out of em and WAY to much wind, in sufficent grow conditions, and the list goes on. So i fathered em for 3 weeks now getting em back to health. Re-potting, flushing, ect ect. They were bad... all 3 weeks not even a cm of growth. So for 3 days now they've been on the 12/12 to start flowering. Ima determine gender, and go from there.

Cause im anal about stuff... so i want to know whats best, and why. I could probably get a decent grow set up going... but decent doesnt cut it for me. I want buds that people nut over...

So am i still clueless, or do i just have some holes that need filled like i think?

bfq · #17 05-29-2008, 09:14 PM

if you are growing healthy plants, you cant be clueless

keep growing and you will learn what you need to know

lots of plants go in just over 2 months, but yeah, 3-4 is more likely.

SparkeySTi · #18 05-29-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bfq

if you are growing healthy plants, you cant be clueless

keep growing and you will learn what you need to know

lots of plants go in just over 2 months, but yeah, 3-4 is more likely.

Thanks. Lol. I'll try and get some pics up... i wouldnt say healthy, but doing better then they would be with the previous grower, yes...

Word. Cant wait to get a setup going. and cant wait till tommarow,

from beer tonight,

chronic tommarow...

icemassa · #19 10-01-2008, 06:24 PM

hey james bong. you might wanna just start off with cfls. hps and mh are very nice if you can provide ventilation to keep it cool. but they are a little more diffcult to handle. it wouldnt be a good idea to run out and buy a large hps until you do your self some research. growing is only as easy as you make it. most of everyone starts off with some kinda floro. just remember cool white cfls for veg and warm white and cool white for flower. ive been growing indoors for 7 years and about 1 year ago i just upgraded to a 600w hps. i went from 4 foot floros to compact floros to 175w mh to 150w hps to 2 150w hps's to a 600w hps. do as much reasearh as you possibly can before jumping in. this site will pretty much tell you everything about growing.

if you do just get a hps look into digital ballasts, it'll save ya a little on the electricty bill. and its easier to handle the ballast. peace.