no..the stems are sturdy...its the leaves that are looking bad...the three plants are pretty much hanging in there fine..but the one with the biggest stem (in the first two pictures) has wilting leaves...although there green..there not stiff like usual there weak and bending...but now there curling upwards...so i highered the light a bit and i'll see how that goes..it just really sucks the best plant is in the worst shape..

thanks for your input northern..anyone else is also welcome to join in
