you have more then cfl's tho, i dont so now i understand .

I also have 5 18w eco-floros, but they are not doing much in light of the CFLs. They are what I started out with. I added the CFLs after figuring out I needed much more light to find success.

yes i am finding that out also as im goin on with my reading,and posting.i have 5-13w (60w replacments). i am only 2weeks in about another week i hope im getting like hoping 10-55w(think 105w replacments) but not 10 atleast 5 and then the 5 13w on the sides of my space when im done ill get some pics up.

I have 6 plants under a 430 watt hps, so thats like 9000 lumens per plant.

so whats the recommended amount of lumens.
pre plant

veg growth =
flowering growth =

ok i know this sounds bad but im tryin to spend the least amount of money

Ok let me clear the air. This is FACT and not my opinion so listen up!

Lumen Requirements For Plants

Seedlings= 375
Clones= 375
Vegetative= 2,500
Flowering= 10,000

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that's pretty cool. where'd u find this FACT?

Its all in the head....ya know? Ive done my homework LoL

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thanks for the info seedlessone
thats per plant right