New smart meter can easily detect large grows.

so i have been reading the issue's here about "smart meters" they are just a way to stop sending out meter readers that arent doing there jobs and not reading the meters properly and charging customers out the ass for power.. so all of these meters are to the power company can send one truck out with a meter reader on top the truck.. saves on people walking for days and not being able to read them and getting shot at for being on private property.. so when you see the power truck ride through your area they are more than likely just picking up your meters signal and it sends the usage to the trucks signal and then to the power co..
i live in va and the population is unreal so to save money ,time and people the use the satalite trucks..this also guarantees a proper bill to each customer.. soon every electric co. will go to these. as they are alot harder to steal power.. so when you see power people driving in the trucks just relax

Originally Posted by BlueBalls

240V is not cheaper.
Power usage is billed in kilowatts per hour.
8A @ 120V = 960W
4A @ 240V = 960W

I will admit to having read this, and I'm not an electrician. So all I can attest to is many testimonials that it's cheaper. I personally think the cost is in nutrients, not electricity.
I already know about the Kw/h but I was informed that the amperage and ballast conversion effected the cost more, but you sound like you know what you're doing, so I'll bow to the expert. I'm still studying the electrical part, which is easily the most complex part.



That is also not true.
If it is a 100A panel; it is 100A per leg.
With proper load balancing; That's 10x10A@120V devices per leg for a total of 20x10A@120V devices or 20x5A@240V devices.

So each half of the panel? Because here the houses have been wired since waaaaay back in the day. They're pretty much all old fuse standard, and have as little as 50amp lines.
I thought that was the main line to the house, so 50amps delivered to the house. I know you can get them to run other lines, and upgrade the panel from fuses to a breaker. Then it's just a matter of running more lines for power.

But you still have half the amp draw anyway? So it doesn't overload it as easily. As you said 20x10A@120v devices per (10 per 100amp leg) or 20x5amp@240v. As the ballast goes from a 10amp to a 5amp device essentially on a 240v line

lol thats y you have 2 lights that turn on and off randomly (always one on) that way there is no 12/12 spike...just a butch of randown spikes.

Originally Posted by FLOWERMASTER

lol thats y you have 2 lights that turn on and off randomly (always one on) that way there is no 12/12 spike...just a butch of randown spikes.

They detect cycles and spikes, which are signatures actually. So ya everytime that random light turns on, you give them a datapoint that you're running a light. That power spike is evidence against you, it's not hiding you at all.

a whole 300 watts!! that means u could be leaving a tv on dude. a hair dryer is 1500 watts! same with a toaster. same with a dryer. or iron. but 300? no. realax.
i am pulling probably an extra 2000 total. im not worried. lots of things like welders used at homes, really rack up the kpr! a grower i know, is in his 30th year of growing, and the last ten, he has been pulling 10,000 watts!! he had an elec come in and magnum out his circuit panels. including heaver gauge wire. lol. oh. my ballast uses "cold start technology". its takes forever to come on all the way. this is for two things. one, is to be easier on the bulb, to heat up slow. also, the power spike will be reduced a great deal. maybe not even be seen?...

They can easily detect if anyone is growing, period. Doesn't matter how large your operation is. If you're using 12/12 consistently it will show up and be extremely easy to discover using a simple computer program.

Originally Posted by blindbaby

a whole 300 watts!! that means u could be leaving a tv on dude. a hair dryer is 1500 watts! same with a toaster. same with a dryer. or iron. but 300? no. realax.
i am pulling probably an extra 2000 total. im not worried. lots of things like welders used at homes, really rack up the kpr! a grower i know, is in his 30th year of growing, and the last ten, he has been pulling 10,000 watts!! he had an elec come in and magnum out his circuit panels. including heaver gauge wire. lol. oh. my ballast uses "cold start technology". its takes forever to come on all the way. this is for two things. one, is to be easier on the bulb, to heat up slow. also, the power spike will be reduced a great deal. maybe not even be seen?...

There's always a spike, even if it's small, if it's a consistent 12/12 you will be easily discovered without any effort at all.

You know what they say,

if they are sticking there head up your ass that far your fuked..LOL