20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

tyler.durden

Well-Known Member
Hey, CG! Happy Holidays! I don't know if you're ever coming back, but in case you do I thought I'd ask a question. I know you're very up on the legalities of growing and I wanted your input: do clones without roots count in the Fed's 99 or less? I'd hate to have 60 plants in flower and 42 cuttings in the aero cloner and have a minimum mandatory kick in if the worst ever happened. Thanks in advance for your input...
 

SunJ

Member
I actually read this entire thread before signing up. The great vibe and mountains of information in the thread were extremely useful. Just wish CG would come back, the work he was doing was amazing! So if you're out there, CG, get on back!
 

Buddha101

Member
Hey C.G.!! Id like to start by saying thank you!!! I don't think there is many people that are as busy as you that would take the time to sit there write/answer peoples questions like you do!!! You really are helping so many people with your knowledge and wisdom!!! Including myself!!! But You are a better man than me!!! I don't think I could take all the time you do to answer and write everything that you do!!!! Anyways, Im a new grower (just started up from seed) My room is 6x6x6 with 2- 600 mh/hps I use bout 4 1/2ft wide x 6ft length of the room... Oh im growing in Foxfarm O.F. / extra Perlite and im growing Liberty haze and white ruski (also known white Russian) M question is, what should I do to get the most out of my space (harvest wise) SoG?, SCROG?, Topping the plants? Any of your input would be greatly appreciated!!!!! as of now (like I said started from seed) I have 9 white ruski Fems going 2weeks oldbabies 095.jpgbabies 096.jpg that I plan on cloning and making a bunch to fill the room, also I have 1 FEM liberty Haze (only 1 seed cracked when I sprouted them!!) THat ive been cloning already and getting ready to fill the room with also... here is a pic of the liberty haze babies 097.jpg I am just getting ready to fill the room (when a few autos finish I have in there now) But I would love to get your input on what I should do to get the most out of my space... Pot size? Style of growing? Etc.... I am using full line up of Fox Farm Nutes... I have 2- 600watt lights (electricity is an issue) But I am going to add a bunch of CFL fixtures half way up the walls going around the room ( to hit the middle of the plants and get extra lumens) So Please if u have the time !!! LoL Let me know what you think!!! Thanks!!! and GoodLuck with your new EMPIRE!!!
 

collective gardener

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Hey gang...I am back. I stopped posting when it became clear that other posters were being raided. We finished up the 20 k grow and got out with our ass intact. I wish I could say the same for 4 other ops in the same 1 mile square area. On Nov. 13, 2013 the feds showed up and, with lots of help from the Sherriff, raided 4 commercial sized grow ops. My good friend Commercial J was one of them. Everything was seized, all parties arrested. Of course all were bailed out within hours. When it came time to go to court, the verdict was "missing complaint". Basically, no charges filed. It was simply a shakedown to close some operations. We kept running till the current crop was done then shut er down. Watching the cops load out a grow op right next door to our fully functioning op was scary as shit. Once again, all that cash spent on carbon filtration and air flow management paid off. I have since started a new 2k bedroom scrog. On a "per watt" basis, it is the most successful op I have ever run!. I would like to share what I am doing and try and help some folks hit that magic gram/watt yield. Should I just start here or start a new thread??? Ahhhh. It's nice to be back.
 

dajosh42069

Well-Known Member
Great to have ya!!! I was raided after being on RIU as well, but I attribute that to my dealing. NOT due to being on a site.
It's great to have ya back! ANd probably make a new thread that isn't almost 300 pages long, that way people know what's going on. I feel you'll spend more time explaining what happened to your grow op, and why youre just doing a small 2K scrog, then you will just doing what you do. :P
 

SupaM

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Very happy to see you back around, CG. If you do start another thread, put up a link, but right here's fine by me. ATB!
 

collective gardener

Well-Known Member
Outstanding seeing you back CG

you still have your genetics?
Yes and no. The original Pre-98 petered out. The buds just kept getting smaller and smaller. The D-Bub shined for a year or so (BIG yielder), then started to become too much work removing hermi nuts. We developed and ran a wonderful Girl Scout pheno...and so did everyone else! Since most of our members preferred the Tahoe over the GSC, we dropped the Scout. Which brings us to The Tahoe. Holy fuck! What a find that was. Props to Commercial J for that one. 3+ years and dozens of generations removed from the seed crop, yet the Tahoe hasn't even slowed down. In fact, since the longer we grow a strain the better we get at it, I would have to say it's doing better than ever. What a monster. Had my op went down with the rest we'd have lost that strain forever......Oh, we also have a new strain going. Unfortunately, we're not sure if it's a Ripped Bubba or a Vortex (some confusion during labeling...I know....tard move...sorry). Anyway, it's my personal fav to smoke. Really upper motivating high, and smells like herbs and (this is going to be bad) musky panties. Seriously, 3 people have said it smells like girly parts. I will take a pic when their at 6 weeks or so to see if anyone can tell which it is.
 

aknight3

Moderator
wow CG i havent seen you in what seems like a fort night. welcome back. I hope things are going good for you man and im glad to see you back here. hope things are well bro
 

collective gardener

Well-Known Member
Been a while for me as well. I'd like to hear what genetics you guys are working with these days. I need to add to the stable el pronto, and don't have the time or energy to do a buttload of testing. Looking for that special girl that doesn't need be the biggest yielder, but turns heads every time. I am fairly fond of the OG's, but would veer from my comfort zone if some of you had any strong opinions.

I will post some pics of a Tahoe SCROG I did that turned out quite nice. I'm pretty sure at some point in here I spoke poorly of SCROG setups, and will shortly be eating my words. Speaking of word eating. I plan on investing in ONE modern high power (600 watt+) LED to do a head to head against a 1000 watt HPS. If anyone has any experience with these please let me know. They are just too expensive to impulse buy. I would have never tried this with the big op. Our plant count dictated fewer larger plants which I feel can only be lit by HPS's. However, with my newfound fondness of SCROG, combined with a personal sized grow, I can grow at a density of just under 1 plant/sq ft. We weren't even half that before. Anyways, my current required column of powerful light is only 18" thick these days. A 1000 watt HPS can provide that over a 5'x5' footprint (pics to follow). So now I am wondering if a big ass LED could pull this off. Any ideas?

Stay safe.
 

SupaM

Well-Known Member
Check out my guy jigfresh's vertical grow....he did a nice run using only LED's, and it turned out nice. ATB!
 

DFurious

Member
Hello CG, and all other followers, contributors of an excellent thread. I have been reading over the last few day ( Currently on page 79.) It has been a very educational, at times comical, and other times annoying thread (spammers, haters.) I just wanted to jump to the end to see if anyone was still around, and say thank you. To CG, and all those that have stuck around. I am by no means an expert in growing and this, and the entire growing community is where those of us whom wish to learn look to. You have been a beacon of knowledge. I currently have a 3kw setup in a spare room. Slowly looking to expand probably after the year. There have been so many great ideas and stories here. I am not sure if its just myself, or others are the same. I just find the whole growing process relaxing. It is a pride thing which some do not get. So without rambling much,I again just wish to say thanks to CG and the rest of those here in the thread.
 

curious2garden

Well-Known Mod
Staff member
Hello CG, and all other followers, contributors of an excellent thread. I have been reading over the last few day ( Currently on page 79.) It has been a very educational, at times comical, and other times annoying thread (spammers, haters.) I just wanted to jump to the end to see if anyone was still around, and say thank you. To CG, and all those that have stuck around. I am by no means an expert in growing and this, and the entire growing community is where those of us whom wish to learn look to. You have been a beacon of knowledge. I currently have a 3kw setup in a spare room. Slowly looking to expand probably after the year. There have been so many great ideas and stories here. I am not sure if its just myself, or others are the same. I just find the whole growing process relaxing. It is a pride thing which some do not get. So without rambling much,I again just wish to say thanks to CG and the rest of those here in the thread.
I haven't seen CG in awhile. I too hope he is safe and doing well. If it weren't for him I would not be growing. He got me started.
 
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