LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

The UVL 660nm are grrreeeat lamps you guys. I don't know why anyone says they are a whitish color because they are definitely not whitish at all. They are very nice deep red color. Much redder than the Redsun lamps and quite a bit less orange. Right now I am running a 4 lamp T5 fixture with 2 Zoomed Ultra Sun white lamps and a Giesemann actinic plus and UVL 660nm in the middle. Lamp placement is Ultrasun, 660nm, actinic plus, Ultrasun and it's a bluish purple white overall color. I like what it's doing to the plants. They have been nice and perky and no strange looking growth. I was starting to see some crazy looking twisted, dark green, not normal looking growth on the Sour D's and Blueberry with the actinic plus/660nm 50/50 setup. Bulb order was actinic plus, 660nm, actinic plus, 660nm and although it was a super deep purple color I am willing to bet that there was to much 420nm light or blue overall causing the strange growth. As soon as I added the 2 Ultrasuns the growth went back to normal. I really prefer a full-spectrum type of light with an emphasis on deep blue and deep red since regular T5 full spec lamps do not have the deep blue and red in them. I would recommend this setup for veg most definitely.

For flowering I am thinking 2 Flora Suns(one on each side) and an actinic plus and 660nm in the middle. In other words, switch out the Ultra's for the Floras at flower time. Otherwise I may replace the actinic plus with a 75/25 since it has less blue.

Here is a shot of my fixture with my current veg setup. I had to ditch my plants because they got infested with thrips and other shit. So now I am starting over from cuttings. I will take new photos in a few weeks. Current lamp setup, ultra sun, actinic plus, 660nm, ultra sun T5 HO 4' lamp.
lamp setup.jpg

Originally Posted by Fonzarelli

The UVL 660nm are grrreeeat lamps you guys. I don't know why anyone says they are a whitish color because they are definitely not whitish at all. They are very nice deep red color. Much redder than the Redsun lamps and quite a bit less orange. Right now I am running a 4 lamp T5 fixture with 2 Zoomed Ultra Sun white lamps and a Giesemann actinic plus and UVL 660nm in the middle. Lamp placement is Ultrasun, 660nm, actinic plus, Ultrasun and it's a bluish purple white overall color. I like what it's doing to the plants. They have been nice and perky and no strange looking growth. I was starting to see some crazy looking twisted, dark green, not normal looking growth on the Sour D's and Blueberry with the actinic plus/660nm 50/50 setup. Bulb order was actinic plus, 660nm, actinic plus, 660nm and although it was a super deep purple color I am willing to bet that there was to much 420nm light or blue overall causing the strange growth. As soon as I added the 2 Ultrasuns the growth went back to normal. I really prefer a full-spectrum type of light with an emphasis on deep blue and deep red since regular T5 full spec lamps do not have the deep blue and red in them. I would recommend this setup for veg most definitely.

For flowering I am thinking 2 Flora Suns(one on each side) and an actinic plus and 660nm in the middle. In other words, switch out the Ultra's for the Floras at flower time. Otherwise I may replace the actinic plus with a 75/25 since it has less blue.

Here is a shot of my fixture with my current veg setup. I had to ditch my plants because they got infested with thrips and other shit. So now I am starting over from cuttings. I will take new photos in a few weeks. Current lamp setup, ultra sun, actinic plus, 660nm, ultra sun T5 HO 4' lamp.
lamp setup.jpg

Nice array Fonz. Although, for flowering, I'd definitely swap out that actinic plus for a coral wave.

Also, where did you purchase the UVL 660?

Originally Posted by Buzzo

Nice array Fonz. Although, for flowering, I'd definitely swap out that actinic plus for a coral wave.

Also, where did you purchase the UVL 660?

The only place to get them is UVL I believe.

Hey Professor,

Are the uvl 22" the same as regular HO 24"? I noticed that they list the lengths on their website and are 22" 34" or 46"?

yes. not profesuer but yes, the measurements for t5 bulbs are slightly shorter then t12 or t8 bulbs(IE 48" t8 is 48" but a 48" t5 is 46")

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...RNgKn8W6f8X7OQ

Almost forgot the most important wavelengths. LOL,

Originally Posted by Fonzarelli

Almost forgot the most important wavelengths. LOL,

This is what's up... thanks fonzi!
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