LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

**novice11** · 08-20-2011, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by lymebrain

It's the UVLs I'm having trouble getting.

A mixture of KZ FIJI PURPLE and ATI PURPLE PLUS would seem to be one possible solution ?

Any thoughts on tents?

I believe the UVL brand is now UV. Can anyone confirm this?

**hyroot** · 08-20-2011, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by pr0fesseur

t5 produces double the light t8 does not worth it...

I know, I was just throwing that out there. i did some google searches and all I could find for t5 red led was knock offs from china and india. all they would give is the lux.

**pr0fesseur** · 08-20-2011, 03:29 PM

http://www.uvlco.com/ theyve always been uv lighting company

**novice11** · 08-20-2011, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by pr0fesseur

http://www.uvlco.com/ theyve always been uv lighting company

Okay, but you said you use...."My Bulbs. UVL Red sun 630nm; UVL 454nm; UVL Super Actinic @ 420nm; ATI Pro Color 660nm; KorallenZucht Fuji Purple 630 & 440nm", but they are UV brand on the aquarium specialty website, I found that a bit confusing as I was looking for UVL. I was a bit concerned that I was getting the wrong ones.

Will the 3 Fuji bulbs have an effect on their own?

**pr0fesseur** · 08-20-2011, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by novice11

Okay, but you said you use...."My Bulbs. UVL Red sun 630nm; UVL 454nm; UVL Super Actinic @ 420nm; ATI Pro Color 660nm; KorallenZucht Fuji Purple 630 & 440nm", but they are UV brand on the aquarium specialty website, I found that a bit confusing as I was looking for UVL. I was a bit concerned that I was getting the wrong ones.

Will the 3 Fuji bulbs have an effect on their own?

Ya the uv Lighting comapny bulbs are listed as UVL because UV will get you blacklights!
The y should be good as a base... but like i said before @ least get one blue plus/super blue in the mix... actinics are optimal for growth!

**ghantron** · 08-20-2011, 05:22 PM

as far as density of buds how do the red t5s size up to hps watt for watt?

**pr0fesseur** · 08-20-2011, 05:48 PM

There is no experimentation to make any assumption on that topic. Unfortunately no one but me is using this method full time... I have no interest in comparisons and discourage them in my thread.. Comparisons will start flaming.. and discourage actual functional conversation.
If you feel like doing a comparison i will help you with all i can offer...
My part is to do a proof of concept if you will.. I have invested a ton of time just trying to proove my method is viable and such an experiment to test HPS vs T5 would take 3 grows and @ least 3 strains to be a fair comparison. a baseline test cfl or t5, a test of my t5 and a hps test.
any other method would be meaningless as you cant proove your hypothesis on 1 side by side grow.... anyone who does is just blowing smoke... LOL~!
i dont have the funds for that....

**hyroot** · 08-20-2011, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by pr0fesseur

There is no experimentation to make any assumption on that topic. Unfortunately no one but me is using this method full time... I have no interest in comparisons and discourage them in my thread.. Comparisons will start flaming.. and discourage actual functional conversation.
If you feel like doing a comparison i will help you with all i can offer...
My part is to do a proof of concept if you will.. I have invested a ton of time just trying to proove my method is viable and such an experiment to test HPS vs T5 would take 3 grows and @ least 3 strains to be a fair comparison. a baseline test cfl or t5, a test of my t5 and a hps test.
any other method would be meaningless as you cant proove your hypothesis on 1 side by side grow.... anyone who does is just blowing smoke... LOL~!
i dont have the funds for that....

how did yours come out? are they dry and cured yet.

**pr0fesseur** · 08-20-2011, 08:23 PM

just clipped! and hanging since yesterday..

**salvador60** · 08-21-2011, 06:00 AM

it's refreshing to find some people that see the science smacking them in the face too. I spent ten years selling the aquarium lightings and have been wondering why no one is talking about using these bulbs. most people tell me i'm crazy and aquarium bulbs won't work because I'm asking them questions they don't know the answers to. i always used 10K/420 actinic 50/50 PC bulbs for my veg and had good results in the past. I want to add some actinic into the mix for next veg cycle and start playing with different bulbs. Aquaticlife has a line of bulbs I've used in the past for reef and aquatic plants. I am by no means a rep. Just a satisfied customer. They make a 10K, 420/460 nm, 460/420 nm, 6000k and a roseate 650 nm bulb. If your having trouble finding red, their 650nm is worth looking at.
the link is for the actinic bulbs
http://www.aquaticlife.com/products2/337#1
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