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    I was just browsing and found a chart for a 2700k cfl that showed it being extremely red heavy... doesn't seem right?

    http://www.jungleseeds.co.uk/Hardwar...en-uk/d34.html

    What is up with that? If that's accurate couldn't I just add a few 2700k CFLs to change the blue/red ratio?

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    I doubt those are accurate. Try looking up that info somewhere else for the same bulb. CFL'S usually emit light high in the yellow wavelengths the same as HPS do. I don't think they know what they're talking about. Misleading info there.
    What the heck is this?
    260516d1291644391-new-induction-grow-light-induction.jpg
    This doesn't look like the output from an induction lamp, so what the heck is the spd graph from please?
    http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...w-light-9.html

    ?????????????????????????????
    223479d1248167399-new-induction-grow-light-spectral-graph.jpg
    ????????????????????????????????????????????
    WHERE DO YOU GET THIS LIGHT? I WANT 4 OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Here is the correct SPD graph for a 2700K CFL,
    260515d1291644391t-new-induction-grow-light-2700kcfl.jpg

    I'm having a hard time believing that those middle SPD charts are even real. Everyone here should take a look at this thread over at boards.cannabis.com and figure this crap out. It sounds like someone got sold some bogus type of induction light, but who knows. I don't get it. This person ordered one of these amazing lights and said the CFL did better. Makes me think that the graph is total bogus, false.
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    --4 FLORA SUN, 1 GIESEMANN ACTINIC PLUS, 1 RED SUN, 2 GIESEMANN MIDDAY + 2 65w CFL CA PLANT GROW--

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    FOUND IT,
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/500w-inducti...item336dbe5395

    Still hard to believe. Does anyone know anything about these?
    Looking at the ebay ad, I can tell straight up that this graph they have is an outright lie. They have a photo of the light turned on where half of the light is yellow and half is white. There is NO WAY that this light produces this amount of 660nm wavelength. As UC has stated before, there is no law against false advertising when it comes to lighting. WHAT THE FUCK? How are these people getting away with selling these lights by advertising a falsely generated spectral analysis? There is no way that these graphs are real. Here is this company's website,

    http://www.lightpros.us.com/products...400-400w-lamp/


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/150W-Bi-Spectrum-INDUCTION-GROW-LIGHT-300W-LED-450W-HPS-/270884637317?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f11fb 8a85


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    --4 FLORA SUN, 1 GIESEMANN ACTINIC PLUS, 1 RED SUN, 2 GIESEMANN MIDDAY + 2 65w CFL CA PLANT GROW--

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    http://www.lightpros.us.com/products...400-400w-lamp/

    Looking at the advertisement on ebay from this company, those amazing spectral analysis charts that I posted earlier ARE FROM LED grow lights not these induction lights!

    Why are they showing SPD graphs from HPS, MH and LEDs but NOT THEIR OWN PRODUCT? This is for sure confusing.

    So, where is the SPD graph for the light that they sell??????????????? This induction light or whatever they are.
    --4 FLORA SUN, 1 GIESEMANN ACTINIC PLUS, 1 RED SUN, 2 GIESEMANN MIDDAY + 2 65w CFL CA PLANT GROW--

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    From what I've read induction is basically long-life fluorescent. The bulb is sealed and the mercury gas excited via induction rather than direct current. The phosphors are just as tune-able as for t5s, the bulbs last for freakin' ever, and they are more efficient generally than t5. Higher upfront cost, and I hadn't heard of that particular company. Inda-grow I think were the ones I was looking at.

    Edit: Inda-Gro

    I just called them, to get a proPAR 420 unit shipped to my door in 2 days would be $845 total with shipping. And they're all made-in-america with a 10-year warranty. The dude I talked to actually said "he's the owner and I'm the grower and we're mostly in this to help people, especially patients." I like 'em.
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    regarding inda-gro:
    I have sent a number of emails with the owner and am currently saving for one of the proPARs, there are a number of indagro vs HPS/MH grows on youtube, check em out
    mpp

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    what the propar lacks in blue (for my designs) i will do as sidelighting w/ t5s (coral wave, blue wave, reef wave all bought on clearance booyah)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueB View Post
    http://www.lightpros.us.com/products...400-400w-lamp/

    Looking at the advertisement on ebay from this company, those amazing spectral analysis charts that I posted earlier ARE FROM LED grow lights not these induction lights!

    Why are they showing SPD graphs from HPS, MH and LEDs but NOT THEIR OWN PRODUCT? This is for sure confusing.

    So, where is the SPD graph for the light that they sell??????????????? This induction light or whatever they are.
    That would explain the blue part in the mostly RED spike output....Red LEDs are phosphored/colored lensed/colored plastic over Blue LEDs but the blue still gets through to a significant degree.
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    I got my FloraSuns and AquaticLife Roseate's. I really like the FloraSuns, Im not impressed with the Roseates. The Roseates dont publish their SPD's online, but proclaim 650nm all over, and the spd on their packaging shows a ripple in the 600-700 range but otherwise is relatively useless. To my eyes, compared to other tubes they appear a plain flat white, they may have some 650nm in them but its likely VERY little/very light. The FloraSuns look just like the AquaMedic PlantGrow's but for $8 a tube you cant go wrong. *** I will say that the way bulbs appear to the eye can vary greatly depending on what bulbs are around them, which I was reminded of when I took no-flash pics.



    DSC02423.jpg
    Flowering main panel ^^^...(to be supplemented with a 4bulb on either side)... top to bottom= Roseate/CoralWave/RedSun/FloraSun/Roseate/CoralWave/RedSun/FloraSun. Its amazing how different they look on camera, in person the Roseate's appear FLAT WHITE but they appear purplish here. So I wont discount them totally, but wont use them as a primary go-to bulb. Im gonna swap in the PlantGrows and use the Roseate's on the side panels, top most slot (Roseate, RedSun, Actinic, Bloom)

    DSC02433.jpg
    Veg main panel ^^^... (to be supplemented with a single blue Actinic on the side)... top to bottom= FloraSun, BlueWave, ReefWave, FloraSun. Again they look very different on camera next to other bulbs. compare the bottom bulb from the flowering panel to the top bulb here, same bulb, both FloraSun. they appear more blueish here, they are infact quite pink (other pics show it)


    suprisingly the top panel in the pic below vvv is a ReefWave/BlueWave just like the pic above ^^ is a BlueWave/ReefWave, but it has 6500k's on the outer two slots vs my new config using FloraSuns. Im sure it has to do with the camera's reception of different colors in the presence of other colors, I just think its funny how much more blue the ReefWave looks next to the FloraSun when it looks so Violet next to the 6500k's, and again how blue the FloraSuns look next to the other blue bulbs, when they definately appear pink to me.

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    This post messed up and wouldnt let me delete it... pls ignore this mess
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    A few more pics just to show the different hues given inside each box.

    my babies...
    DSC02441.jpg
    DSC02445.jpgDSC02446.jpg
    DSC02447.jpgDSC02450.jpg

    Notice the nice blue glow with a hint of pink?
    DSC02454.jpg
    This pic above ^^^ shows the pink in the FloraSuns abit more. I like em


    The flowering box...12/12 from seedling -about 12days now

    DSC02455.jpgDSC02456.jpg
    Notice the overal rosy glow, very red but still showing blue

    DSC02462.jpg

    ^^^Roseate,CoralWave,RedSun,FloraSun,Roseate,Coral Wave,Redsun,FloraSun
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