LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

AltarNation said:

pedro, does the box say "discount hydro" on the return? LOL. I'm always slapping my forehead when the fedex guy drops me off a box and it's like "ROGUE HYDROPONICS" across the top of the label...

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All the box has on it is my address name it doesn't say nething about dh only thing besides my info is the FedEx information

But I know what you mean I got my tent from virtual sun hydro and it was rite on the box in big letters I was like wtf it said discrete how is putting VIRTALSUN HYDROPONICS descrete

kpmarine said:

Just like the Quantam boxes. With their giant plant growing advert on them. Might as well stencil "This dude is growing indoors" on some of these packages. Though to be fair, indoor gardening does have a bit of a following in general.

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Ya I don't realy like when they put there ads and name on the boxes

But I was ok with the htg boxes because they just said htg supply on them and if you look at the name its - high tech gardening supplies - to me that's way different than outing something hydro or something like that

I think about 90% of our paranoia is due to the fact we KNOW what we're doing though. Honestly if I didn't grow, a guy walking by with a bunch of 5 gal buckets, a water pump, and a bunch of black tubing wouldn't raise a red flag. He just looks like someone buying a bunch of project stuff to the layman.

kpmarine said:

I think about 90% of our paranoia is due to the fact we KNOW what we're doing though. Honestly if I didn't grow, a guy walking by with a bunch of 5 gal buckets, a water pump, and a bunch of black tubing wouldn't raise a red flag. He just looks like someone buying a bunch of project stuff to the layman.

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I would completely agree with that but in my area I got to be paranoid it saved my ass but once I move to the new house I could care less my neibors will only be home in Oct through Feb I'll just make big orders when they are back at there homes and not on vacation from the cold that's one big plus about most areas in Florida

Just wanted to provide input on the Sunblaster brand of horticultural T5. I'm really liking mine, good for all my herbs and veggies I'm starting early. My temp probe puts them at 90F about a half inch away frOm the bare bulb. My 3' is 3624 lumens, 39 watts and 6400k temp. My special plants are eating up the rays! Nine nodes @8" tall keeping tubes 1-2.5 " away. I got mine from he local nursery. I'm stoked to have six of these and 4 23w cfl added for bloOm. Will write a thread with pics when the deeds are done. T5ho baby. Happy 420 you guys this thread is sick!

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pedro420 said:

I would completely agree with that but in my area I got to be paranoid it saved my ass but once I move to the new house I could care less my neibors will only be home in Oct through Feb I'll just make big orders when they are back at there homes and not on vacation from the cold that's one big plus about most areas in Florida

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Admittedly, if you start making a trend of buying grow stuff. Someone will take notice if you're not a bit subtle.

kpmarine said:

Admittedly, if you start making a trend of buying grow stuff. Someone will take notice if you're not a bit subtle.

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Yes I take caution when I have to order something big good thing about useing soil and grow bags just tell em soils for the garden that could mean nething lol and I usually only order a few things as I need them so the boxes aren't big and a extra step I take is if I do throws box away I remove the label so incase someone goes threw my trash they don't see nething but a brown box that could be for nething

JayBio420 said:

Just wanted to provide input on the Sunblaster brand of horticultural T5. I'm really liking mine, good for all my herbs and veggies I'm starting early. My temp probe puts them at 90F about a half inch away frOm the bare bulb. My 3' is 3624 lumens, 39 watts and 6400k temp. My special plants are eating up the rays! Nine nodes @8" tall keeping tubes 1-2.5 " away. I got mine from he local nursery. I'm stoked to have six of these and 4 23w cfl added for bloOm. Will write a thread with pics when the deeds are done. T5ho baby. Happy 420 you guys this thread is sick!

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im sure they work and good at that. bu their spectrum is probably that of your average t5ho 6500k light bulb. to be honest 6.5k is a good spectrum but its only a choice among many bulbs some are better than others. i would use a 6.5K in a combo but not alone. florasun 5000k is much better spectrum with good red spike(i now see what your saying uc, doing mad research on these Hid spectrums, mol rating, and NM peaks, now that this t5 got me thinking)

another better example is coralife 6.7k probably the best bulb in veg in combo with the florasuns. but the brand doesn't matter, its the results. but im put off by sunblaster by the fact they dont provide an accurate chart, hell even the shitty HID bulb builders provide charts.

kpmarine said:

Admittedly, if you start making a trend of buying grow stuff. Someone will take notice if you're not a bit subtle.

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too true. especially me. i pretty much have to get all my stuff in person and DIY out of paranoia, and anything i need have shipped it has to be shipped elsewhere and i will pick it up myself.

thats really the only reason i dont make the jump to hydro... i can just pack my shit up and go!

Well you can study charts for weeks, but I'm offering experience via preliminary results. As I try out my setup I will monitor and analyze. These babies are so bushy! Not trying to say Sunblaster are premium, just that they are rocking the house for the various plants I'm growing. I dont discount them based on their light "chart". I have no doubt my plants at 4 weeks look way bushier the several HID examples around here! Best of luck to all of you and mother nature and Mary Jane be with ya!

Oh PS. The Sunblaster chart does look hyperinflated, but I heRd these chRts are out of wack and more for internal comparison between the comPanies bulbs.

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Posted some par video on last page

lol I never did get my seeds germinated yesterday. I suppose I am lucky I got my watering done.

JayBio420 said:

Well you can study charts for weeks, but I'm offering experience via preliminary results. As I try out my setup I will monitor and analyze. These babies are so bushy! Not trying to say Sunblaster are premium, just that they are rocking the house for the various plants I'm growing. I dont discount them based on their light "chart". I have no doubt my plants at 4 weeks look way bushier the several HID examples around here! Best of luck to all of you and mother nature and Mary Jane be with ya!

Oh PS. The Sunblaster chart does look hyperinflated, but I heRd these chRts are out of wack and more for internal comparison between the comPanies bulbs.

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lol, we have done a lot more than study charts for weeks man. Several of us have multiple par grows under our belts at this point. I am finishing my second. Read through the thread before you mock us... we provide the charts as evidence, but that doesn't mean we don't have experience. Best of luck with your 6500ks.

Have any of y'all wall-mounted your T5's? Do they have to hang? I now the ballast box is on the top so I am scared about trapping heat back there, but I kind of want to get it right up against a wall. Don't want to risk burning out the ballasts though, so I'll probably try to space it out at least a few inches... just wondering if anyone has tried putting one up against a solid surface, any problems?

AltarNation said:

lol, we have done a lot more than study charts for weeks man. Several of us have multiple par grows under our belts at this point. I am finishing my second. Read through the thread before you mock us... we provide the charts as evidence, but that doesn't mean we don't have experience. Best of luck with your 6500ks.

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i dont even know why he bothered...


anyways this is gonna be new line up of lighting for flower here soon

4 bulb t5, x2 coral wave enhancer, x2 28w zilla 5.0, 400w phillips master color CMH, 400w Hortlux HPS

im undecided on the zilla or just getting x2 6.7k coralife. i may get the coral life and get x2 reptisun 10.0 40w t12 or the 36w t8 in addition

AN, I currently have 2 2ft panels and one four footer all hanging vertically against walls with no air gap, no problems, just have decent general ventilation and youre golden

Undercover Cop said:

AN, I currently have 2 2ft panels and one four footer all hanging vertically against walls with no air gap, no problems, just have decent general ventilation and youre golden

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Cool, good to know... that buys me some extra space in my veg chamber for now... though if the flowers don't finish soon my veg chamber's going to explode anyway, haha.