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I have two 70w HPS bulbs that I want to use and do not knwo where to find a complete kit to hook these into. Im new to the grow process but plan to use these along with a 600w or 400w HPS as well. either way, i have these and want to use them and need ballasts. something ill be able to plug into a normal home socket. if you can find one with a reflector that would be sweet. cheaper the better.
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Dude, go to homedepot or lowes and ask the person in the light department to show you the HPS and MH secruity lights. Any of those that say 70w will work. I guess you could get one of the 150w and put that bulb in there, but either way anywhere that has a decent selection of lights i.e. Homedepot, Lowes, and some walmarts will have HPS Secruity lights. Now, you may have to adjust it to where its not motion sensored and some only come on in the dark. I guess you could fix that by covering up the sensor so it thinks its dark all the time but im not sure.
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Dude, go to homedepot or lowes and ask the person in the light department to show you the HPS and MH secruity lights. Any of those that say 70w will work. I guess you could get one of the 150w and put that bulb in there, but either way anywhere that has a decent selection of lights i.e. Homedepot, Lowes, and some walmarts will have HPS Secruity lights. Now, you may have to adjust it to where its not motion sensored and some only come on in the dark. I guess you could fix that by covering up the sensor so it thinks its dark all the time but im not sure.
i think i might be too lazy for that to occur. plus i want to keep the electric to a minimum. im really trying to be stealth but i think just running one wire instead of three will be a bigger benefit than two 70w's. whats the best light setup MH/HPS for a 2'w X 5'd X 8'h? and how many plants can be sustained by this area and light?
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Well for that size area you could grow a shit load. Depending on how you do it that is. You could do a sea of green or just grow them flat out. I would say about 10 females would be perfect for that size room. Now, if you are only going to go with one light get a HPS 400w or better. For that size space its just going to take way to many cfl's. Your best bet would be a 600w, they are the best all around light. 1000w is sometimes to big and hot, and 400 sometimes isnt enough. Ask anyone in the 600w club and they will tell you. If you have a little bit more money get one that has both mh and hps. Or just get one or the other and buy conversion bulbs. Still, hps is the best all around light. But, if you have to stay stealthy and you dont want to spend alot of money i would split that room into 2 rooms. One smaller one for veg, seeds, clones, mothers and the bigger one for flowering. That way you could use cfls in both sections. Just some thoughts, but keep us posted. I want to see what you decide on.

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I was wondering if I could split that room into two sections but I came up with only one option to do so. I was considering getting a digital 600w air cooled hps/mh combo with attached 6" inline fan to draw heat away. plants would be around 36-40" tall at max, or close to it at this wattage/lumens, i am assuming when i veg them till about 12-14"'s. I am cutting a hole into the side of the closet to vent the air out of the closet and place a 95cfm exhaust fan/scrubber combo at the top of the closet, around 7.5" high. The only problem I see is where I could split the room. To get the highest yield I would have to utilize the entire 2'x5' floor space for the female flowering plants. Where would I put the veg stage stuff while still having the max space for flowering? I was thinking of making a separate little file cabinet to veg clones in and then switch them over to the other closet space for flower. Than I dont need a combo light, or perhaps need an additional HID for the cabinet. So, this is my dilemma. I think I am just going to be left with one closet space unless I can find a way to keep clones somewhere and get them to about a foot before moving them to the flowering section. Or perhaps be able to use some space in the 8 foot height area above the 5' I need for the flowering stuff. How does this sound? I have about $600 for the project and think that this will be the perfect amount to spend on this space with very good yields. What do you guys think?
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Look dude, i did the same thing as you. When i was getting ready to build this and start i had all these ideas of what i was going to do and how it was going to look and everything changed! You need to just get started and do what you need to do. Dreaming and thinking is good for awhile, but once you get started most of your plans will change. I hope everything goes well, im sure it will.
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You dont have to split the room in half. Just 2 sections. The veg, clone, mother room only needs to be like 2x2 or something very tiny. In it you only need cfls or floros. But, if you have the means or money i would make a seperate veg box. Just something small with cfls and use the whole closet for flowering like you said. Just sit back, take a deep breath, relax, and start slow. You are planning and thinking way to much. Just start slow man, slow.
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yeah, my gf always tells me i think too much and go too fast too. lol. im already started and yeah im taking it step by step but i am also getting to the point where im going to switch from my flouros to an HID setup and need to get it going cuz my babies been growing for two weeks now. they are all pretty healthy looking too with two being about four inches tall with three nodes. three others are smaller, maybe four days behind the bigger ones. im just trying to see how to maximize my area without wasting time/money/room. i think the final answer is...600w mh/hps switchable digital air cooled jumpoff. one room for the first grow since i will need to concentrate on this one, it being my first and all. then when i move onto grow number two, work on splitting up the space to account for both different stages as well as clones. also by then ill have more dough to buy more supplies such as three different lighting environments. right now i think i can manage only one. so thanks for your help, i know i think/type too much but i got a lot goin on in this stoned mind and its all good stuff.
im going to take pics to document the grow but wont post them until the grow is complete just for my own peace of mind.
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