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    Also got more clones going in soon, but just using one 600w for now.Wish I had more plants to put in for my other 600w!Soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrynaGroSumShyt View Post
    Anybody growing organic notice that plants drink (nute uptake) is a lot slower? and i wanted to know how different my yield may be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrynaGroSumShyt View Post
    Anybody growing organic notice that plants drink (nute uptake) is a lot slower? and i wanted to know how different my yield may be.
    YUP! Organic processes are just those, processes. I started with organics and switched to hydro, and noticed a stunning jump in performance. And I'll let you in on a little secret. All the growers I know pish on me for using mineral nutrients and Hydro techniques. Until I'm done 2 weeks earlier, and they're all smoking it anyways...LOL.

    As far as yields go, you'll notice a smaller yield, but the flavor and aroma will be nicer.
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    Ok i see, i did some reading about it breaking down in the soil and what not. Also, i hope my harvest doesnt take a hard hit, i depend on it .
    If i said it, i meant it. Keeping it 100% And that's real.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TrynaGroSumShyt View Post
    Ok i see, i did some reading about it breaking down in the soil and what not. Also, i hope my harvest doesnt take a hard hit, i depend on it .
    I find Organics more forgiving and lower maintenance. Yield shouldn't suffer very much. Maybe a zip a plant worst case...

    What is in your organic soil. (Or what should be)

    Welcome to Organics.
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    thx for the welcome. and info. i can take a small hit in yield. so i wont mind. is there a known reason for this though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrynaGroSumShyt View Post
    is there a known reason for this though?
    yeah.... hydro is better, hehe.

    Just kidding bru. I'm going from hydro to organic soil myself soon. Looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrynaGroSumShyt View Post
    thx for the welcome. and info. i can take a small hit in yield. so i wont mind. is there a known reason for this though?
    The way I understand it, hydro has higher oxygen levels in the root zone, which translates to faster nutrient uptake and a stronger root zone. Since hydo uses chemical ferts in a ready to consume state, the growth rates are much faster. With organics, there is much going on behind the scenes to break down the organic matter to usable forms of nutrients for the plant to consume. I'm not going to pretend to know as much as afraw, sounds like he knows his organics and doesn't play!

    I've noticed little to no difference in yield comparing organic to chemical nutes in soil. Vs hydro, a completely different story. Depending on strain I average 3-6 oz per plant with 4 plants in a 4 x 4 box supplementing Co2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrynaGroSumShyt View Post
    thx for the welcome. and info. i can take a small hit in yield. so i wont mind. is there a known reason for this though?
    With hydroponic methods, nutrients are given to the roots in a state that is immediately available. With organics, you rely on the processes described in my Soil Notes that I linked. Think of it as going out to eat vs cooking at home. When you cook at home, (Organics) it takes a little longer to eat, because you must prepare the food to be edible. When you dine out, it is much faster because the food arrives in a form you can consume immediately. Of course people who eat out a lot are larger (Higher Yield) but not necessarily healthier. (Organic Taste)

    I won't be pulled into a Hydro Vs Organics debate, because I feel both have their place. If I'm entering a cup, Organics. If I'm trying to grow a lot with a little, Hydro.
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    And yes, Maximum dissolved O2 at the roots hurts nothing.
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