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Old 09-06-2009, 02:14 PM
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They aren't going to see his PLANTS on FLIR they will see the heat put off by the lights. A 600w HPS ballast puts off alot of heat and if there is any extreme heat in an area of ground a heli/plane might wonder what that is.

Granted it could be pumps for septic tanks and the like but yeah the ground formation would be more easily spotted if the underground growing op was properly insulated.

If this was near a home you could make a solar pre-heater to mask the heat footprint obove and pump that into your hot water heater and save some money on gas at the same time(easier to heat preheated water).


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of course they cant see plant heat inside. i was talking about outside growing. thanks for telling me grow lights get hot tho.......didnt know that.....



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They aren't going to see his PLANTS on FLIR they will see the heat put off by the lights. A 600w HPS ballast puts off alot of heat and if there is any extreme heat in an area of ground a heli/plane might wonder what that is.

Granted it could be pumps for septic tanks and the like but yeah the ground formation would be more easily spotted if the underground growing op was properly insulated.

If this was near a home you could make a solar pre-heater to mask the heat footprint obove and pump that into your hot water heater and save some money on gas at the same time(easier to heat preheated water).


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they also look for changes in power usage, but the way around that is to keep salt water reef tanks as they use similar lighting and what not so you can keep your cover there and have an awesome fish tank to look at while you are using your medicine
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Old 09-06-2009, 02:41 PM
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of course they cant see plant heat inside. i was talking about outside growing. thanks for telling me grow lights get hot tho.......didnt know that.....
Ever touch a 100w incandescent bulb? Imagine a 600w bulb now. Also the ballast has a bunch of electronic components and at 600 watts most devices are hardly efficient and the byproduct of wasted energy is HEAT.

So yeah, gets pretty damn hot.


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Search warrant issue is not relevant. If the police spot it, they can have a patrol car in the area for a legally initiated search based on probable cause within the hour...all an officer really needs to do is smell or see pot...and if he knows where to look from surveillance above, that's about all they need. Helicopters, however, are not as effective as some people like to think. For starters, they look for patterns in vegetation that are not natural...so rows, zigzags, etc. are not a good idea. Also, the plants themselves, pending how large, standout from above. No normal household has a random ass plant in the middle of the yard growing...
Additionally, if you are doing an outdoor, guerilla type deal away from your property let's say or in wooded area, they look for disturbances to nature. For example, trash, man made adjustments to the land, trails, obvious concealment, and non-natural growth patterns. Also, people out in the middle of the woods looks bad.
The plants themselves do not necessarily emit anything that a normal plant would not. Now, if clumped together in a large group, it might look odd, but a cluster here, a cluster there. No problem. Infa red is going to expose random dudes walking around in the woods at night working on their grow.
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first of all, in the united states, FLIR observations are not admissable as evidence as probable cause for search and seizure... it goes against the right ti unwarranted search and seizure. this is not limited to FLIR, and applies to ANY technology used to gain evidence. they CANNOT enter your property with images taken from RANDOM flyovers.. they must obtain a warrant specifically to use the equipment to take the image. with a warrant they can do whatever they want, however, and all it takes to get a warrant is one snitch that says 'this dude grows!'
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Kyllo v. United States, 533 U.S. 27 (2001)

how they spot plants in the woods and hills is a little bit different, tho.
besides the fact cannabis is not native to north america and sticks out like a sore thumb and is spotted easily from the air with the naked eye.. they also have another trick up there sleeve:

they use a technology called 'spectrum matching image analysis'

basically it works on the idea that they know how weed reflects light... a wide angle image is processed through a computer that scans the image using several filters to do a contrast comparison of the reflected spectrums of light... its like having a robotic high def camera that knows exactly what weed looks like and its all it looks for.
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there got a infared camra on the helicopter and a screen and they can see da yarndi turns purple on on it
i no for a fact coz my cuz is with a x copa XP


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Old 10-31-2009, 04:14 AM
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man all u cunts that are talkin warents n shit ur fuckin dumb cunts lol if they no u got yardy they be comin in to seaz tha shit befor anythink
when u no sum1 that have got done for growing then u will find out they will fuck u ova if u think that lol
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I'll assume for a moment that you were attempting to use English...then I will hope to all that is holy, that it is not your native tongue.
That being said, I still think you are an idiot Jaso420.
The basis for your argument seems to be that your cousin dates an ex-cop. I can certainly see how that would make you an authority.
What sort of cop was he? City? County? State? Traffic cop? Investigator? S.W.A.T.? Undercover?
What state did he work in..because the laws are a bit different in each, unless you are dealing with the Feds...in which case it falls under a different and often stricter set of laws.

In reality, I don't care about the answers to any of these questions. I'm simply pointing out that there are a lot of differences in the type and quality of police officer. Most cops are simple beat cops who probably got quite lucky to graduate high school or get their GED. I have a feeling you cousin's cop lover was one of those...hence your half retarded statement.
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man all u cunts that are talkin warents n shit ur fuckin dumb cunts lol if they no u got yardy they be comin in to seaz tha shit befor anythink
when u no sum1 that have got done for growing then u will find out they will fuck u ova if u think that lol

 

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