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Old 10-21-2009, 07:57 PM
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Nothing besides water. i can switch soil no problem. what should i use though?
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bulbs are 2700k
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bulbs are 2700k
2700k should be used for flowering. You need 6400k for vegging.
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Read this tutorial it will explain what you need to know.
Tutorial to Growing with Cfl's
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didnt mean to come off as a dickhead earlier man
u got to understand im tryin to quit cigs

seriously ditch the miracle grow.. the only decent product they make is organic bloodmeal

as far as lights go 2700k is supposedly good for flowering, and they say 6000k is good for veg

as far as myself i use a mixed spectrum... 2 lamps @ 3100k and 2 lamps @ 5700k, all lamps @ 46w those color ratings are tricky to find tho you have to order them from an architectual lighting supplier. i use all 4 lamps throughout the entire growth cycle, i usually do 2-3 weeks from seedling @ 24/7, once i have 3-4 nodes i switch to 18/6, and keep it there untill im done vegging. i heavily lst and fim tho so i usually will veg for 2-3 months, then switch to 12/12 lighting for flower untill the trichromes are 30-60% amber. i prefer a cerebral high over couchlock.....

i dont favor the heavy use of nutes. i usually go with lots of bloodmeal during veg for nitrogen, 2-3 weeks before i switch to flower i coat my soil with 1/4-1/2" of hardwood ash and mix it in real good for potassium and phosphorus. sometimes, if im feeling froggy i will use some cal-mag bloom nutes, but i almost never do because i havent noticed a significant gain when using them... maybe its because i baby the hell out of bitches and are already getting the most out of them, i dont know. some people swear by nutes, myself, i think there just another gimmick to spend money on, if you do your job right as a grower you wont be needing them unless your going hydroponic, then there required. unless your mixing organic hot soil i wouldnt bother with fertilizers... personally i think the organic hot soil is the way to go, once you have a good system dialed in you never will have to worry about nute burning, ph, saltlock, flushing or the dozen other things most soil growers sweat about.

the key is experimentation.... find what works for you and STICK with it untill you find a better system or gain the skills to master dwc or bubbleponics
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let me way in on this lil delima i do not agree at all people bad mouth shit because they cant grow with it or had trouble with it im on my second grow with mg organic choice and just like the first this one is thriving no trouble at all the only thing is with all mg products you can not be heavy with adding nutes i dont add any during my veg stage i dont need to, check out my babies and see a lot of these cats on here are fancy nute crazy and so forth like steroids thats the problem watch your plant and see what it needs and then take care of it and it will take care of you..my grow 2 blue mystic huge bush @26 days wow mg organic 1 skunk @12 days huge tanks mg and 1 papaya just started @8 days please more mg please. so my point is grow your plant dont let others do it for you research...peace pot prosperity...also they are very small for four weeks if you do change the soil to mg DO NOT NUTE FOR A WHILE!! DO NOT OVER WATER GET YOUR LIGHTS DOWN LOW AND WATCH IT GROW...i use a lil superthrive on one of my slow growerseach watering and wahlah..
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Okay guys i havnt been able to find any of the good soil such as fox farm or bio-canna anywhere local. The blubs also what should i get for cfl i know it needs to be 6400-6500 but what watt is that and what do i look for?
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http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 would these work for veg?
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hmm my plant is the same age
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Hey guys well the plant that was the biggest isnt looking so good i got 2 6500k light bulbs. She is dropping really bad but still has good green on her and she has got yellow leaves... anything on this. Next weekend i will be able to spend about 50 bucks on the box
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