lights are lights

leds real or hype
can i grow under colored lights (red and blue) would this be the same as led
i see a lot of led setups online and they all are red and blue 7/2 could i just by a massive amount of red and blue party bulbs and have a seed to harvest grow during my research i found out that its not about the brightness of your light but the spectrum led's do a good job at forcing the red/blue light spec. onto plants could this theory work with colored lightbulbs, it would defiantly be cheaper
and why are leds so much $$ couldn't I just buy a bunch of super bright x-mass light, about 50 leds come on each string so about 7 reds 2 blue tape all the lights together or how ever just put them together so they kind of look like the ones online.
would the light thats produce be comparable to led made now. i mean we are talking about 400 super bright xmas light focussed to one point and not the typical pointed sape but the ones that look flat at the top in theory this could and should work?????
maybe

i dont know realy .. maybe those are cheaper made? less reliable for high output of light ?

it would take a lot
but still cheaper than leds

well hell put up a r&d cab and see how it goes..i guess you would have to wrap it like a xmas tree?or you gunna make bundles out of the lights ?

Ignorance.

give it a try u never no

Fallen Buckshot said:

well hell put up a r&d cab and see how it goes..i guess you would have to wrap it like a xmas tree?or you gunna make bundles out of the lights ?

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bundles lots of bundles a whole lot of ele.tape

those super bright leds have to be 1w and at least 50-80 come on a string 1 string cost 10-20 $ put 10 strings together tape all the lights so they have one side flat like a book


yeah this should work and youll save 600-1000 $ DIY

Treeth said:

Ignorance.

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leds are leds theres people makeing there own leds if that will work why wouldnt mine work becouse theyer x-mas light your not even giving the thought a chance think about it when ever i put up x-mas lights they light up the whole living room and that them spred out now if they were consentrated in one spot then they would be even more intense

further more IGNORANCE i am poseing a question and that was more than likely what was said when the first led user said hey let grow under led red and blue or also this is what was said to the first indoor grower by in outside grower hey you cany grow inside you need the sun or that pants going to get to big

the planet is not flat there are hundereds of ways to do something. maybe you call it ignorance becouse you did not think of it and or maybe you have bought one of these $3000 led setup and now feel slighted after running into my post or maybe you are a bulder and seller of one of these $2500 led units and if people thought like me the prices would have to come down about 80 % if not more

has any one ever put a red light in there flowering room to help with flowering would that even do anything ive say this some where

What type of xmas lights are you going to get?
I would have to imagine anything sold as a christmas light is going to be the cheapest LED on the planet that that chinese manufacturer could find.
The LED grow lights (at least some) use T-bin and similar very high quality very high out put LEDs. Thats why they are so expensive.
What your talking about... if the lights are actually LEDs will work, although probably not as well as an hps or mh would.

Also, if your serious about wrapping a bunch of xmas lights together in a bundle, it sounds like an incredible risk for a fire, and heat...

Your talking about spending 200 bucks to try to see if you can grow trees with christmas lights.... you could buy a light designed for it for that.

thanks man you guys have really woke me you to the real world. even so i may still try it i only wanted to try a led grow without the costs maybe my research would have saved us all lots of $ i read somewhere that leds where the next best thing im not sure where but im sure nothing will take the place of hid lights for commercial growers but for some of us personal stash growers it could'ev been amazing

im sure the first indoor grower was meet with haters saying things like you cant' grow pot indoors under street lights. or parking lot light are you crazy your going to burn down your house only the power of the sun will work C F L 's you have to be insaine

if we all work together to further the movement we ............ i dont where i was going with that but, know it was going to be deep.

i will tryit and doc. it all down then post it i wish i had a whole lot of money but wait then could aford hpss'
if someone eles try it tell us all whats what.

somebuddy said:

What type of xmas lights are you going to get?
I would have to imagine anything sold as a christmas light is going to be the cheapest LED on the planet that that chinese manufacturer could find.
The LED grow lights (at least some) use T-bin and similar very high quality very high out put LEDs. Thats why they are so expensive.
What your talking about... if the lights are actually LEDs will work, although probably not as well as an hps or mh would.

Also, if your serious about wrapping a bunch of xmas lights together in a bundle, it sounds like an incredible risk for a fire, and heat...

Your talking about spending 200 bucks to try to see if you can grow trees with christmas lights.... you could buy a light designed for it for that.

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conical shaped ones look them up online i did there supper bright there made with 1w leds and 50 come on a string for 15$ us
then look up an led grow light count how many light are on it and how many wats per led

a 300w led has 300 leds on it it cost 2500$ - 5000$ us

if what i am trying to to works then the same 300w led would cost less then 100$ us

all this only if leds are worth it if not cfls for me unless i hit the megamillions

I've done a bit of electronics work in my life, and one thing to keep in mind about the LED grow lights is they arent just a bunch of lights strung together like the christmas tree lights seem to be. Now, I've never taken one of those apart, but after this post, I think I will. I have reviewed plenty of schematics to build your own LED lights of various types though, and they have buffering circuits in them that can actually be fairly complicated. I've been curious about those LED strands since they come to market, and I do quite wonder what the story is there. I build a lot of stuff that requires LEDs, though never chained or more than a few per project, and even bought in relative bulk, LEDs are expensive.

If it does turn out to work well for growing, a more robust, though more difficult, solution would be to remove the LEDs from the strand and do a build up yourself on Perf board. We've been shown every Christmas in the news why you dont leave your Christmas lights on when you leave, and especially with everything coming from China these days, I wouldnt trust my life or the safety of my earthly posessions to some Chinese wiring.

I read elsewhere that LED growlights arent actually so hot for producing big plants though - anyone else have first hand experience here?

I'm gonna poke around and see what info there is on the subject. I've been wanting to redo my entire house with LED lights instead of the CFLs I've got in the sockets now. LED lights look more flattering to me.

i would agree and thanks for not attacking me i also heard that leds are not good grow lights that theyer not even better then cfls at best = too or less then

but i have also herd that they were better than hps but of course that was from a site that sold them and quite pricey

and some x-mass light are so bright you have to look away from them you have to goggle supper bright x-mass lights (conical shaped) some of the house decoraters take x-mass light hangging so seriousley these guys are insane and not all x-mass light come from chinese manufacturer like most if not all (ps ps2 ps3 wii all the games ever more then likely the computer or most of its chips or parts hell most of are clothes are cars even so called american made cars if not the car there parts the current grow light we use nowand i can go on and on... and no i am not chinese just keeping it real )of the suff around OUR house.

i personaly like cfls but when i heard about these leds i got a hard on but when i saw the price i could have shitted my pants i even considered building my own then i was in my basement and i found some old x-mas lights and a lightbulb went off in my head ( calm down it was a hps bulb) and i thought maybe i could take a rosster pan punch some holes in it place the lights in the holes add a fan and viola` led light
as you can already tell im a big fan of DIY

I think your right about LEDs being the next big thing. And i saw it long ago when i first held a Cree LED flashlight.
I collect, and love flashlights, and i had never, and still have never seen anything as bright as some of the led lights that came out recently.
That said the key word is 'next' in that sentence. I just dont think the technology is here quite yet, and im sure when they figure it out, and it really starts to stick, there will be affordable models, that work.

Thats when you should get on the LED wagon, when sun systems, or one of the large light or hood makers starts making leds that work.

I think it would be so sweet to be able to grow with no heat issues at all. but for now. fans and filters, and proven methods.

sad but true

growing with X-mas Lights!!! ahahahahaha

read the whole thread smartass im talking about leds not regular x-mas light some x-mas light are made of highpower leds look it up and the dont cost as much ass led grow light

u can't go wrong with HID lights.. and not that expensive

ok ok i give up ill get a hps whats a good watt to start with im trying to flower 16 plants in a 10 gal tote bubbleponic system i know i will have to keep them short i seen a utube video (seemorebuds pt 1-3 ) and i am motivated to grow a lot short in a small area if you havenot seen this its a site to behold