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Default Molasses with Synthetic Fertilizers?
I was wondering if there's any point in using molasses with synthetic fertilizers, aka non organic.

Molasses are used to feed the microherd, or microbes that are beneficial tot he plant, but synthethic fertilizers kill those very same microbes, or so i heard.

So, i'm not sure if using molasses together with a synthethic fertilizer such as schultz bloom 10 54 10, would do anything?

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Old 06-20-2009, 06:51 PM
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Beneficials don't eat chemicals, they love molasses though.
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sigh. ok.

Reply 1. I never said beneficials eat chemicals.
Reply 2. I know how much to use.

question is. Does using molasses, while at the same time using synthetic fertilizers, increase your yield? It would seem that the synthethics would kill the microbes, while the molasses are designed to feed the microbes. So if the synthetics kill the microbe, then why use molasses, as there are no more microbes left to feed.
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My point was, that the chems don't kill off your microbes, they can live with them.

People will disagree, but I have grown with a bio system and used chem nutes.


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sigh. ok.

Reply 1. I never said beneficials eat chemicals.
Reply 2. I know how much to use.

question is. Does using molasses, while at the same time using synthetic fertilizers, increase your yield? It would seem that the synthethics would kill the microbes, while the molasses are designed to feed the microbes. So if the synthetics kill the microbe, then why use molasses, as there are no more microbes left to feed.
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I used both. my 1st grow. I used that shultz (10-54-10) stuff, 1 week, molasses the next week. Worked out pretty good. But I "brewed" the molasses with an airstone.
Here is how you do it. - by Ohsogreen
First use only unsulphured molasses, like Briar Rabbit or Grandma's Molasses (brands). Mix one ounce to one gallon of chlorine free water. If you only have tap water, let it set for two days & 99% of the chlorine will evaporate. Then you can add the molasses.
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You can bubble (oxygenate) it using a cheap aquarium pump & air stone for at least one day. Or just pour it from one clean container (jug or bucket) to another a couple of times a day, for at least two days.
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This provides extra oxygen to the good micro-beaties, they then eat, mutiply, & kill off - the not so nice micro-beaties. The longer you oygenate this mix, the more good guys you end up with. Their eating & pooping out the NPK (bioconversion) is what make it highly soluble. Over time their bioconversion reduces the N and pumps up the P & K slightly. Not a big shift, just a point or two.
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This makes a good growth stage fertilizer (that's cheap).
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Just mix it light the first time & water in lightly - like one quart per plant.
Start low & build slow. This prevents overfertilizing.
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Use this mix one week & plain water the next.
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You can add nutes to the mix, but remember your adding to a mix with a NPK of about 5-1-3 already.
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