Starsailor, you don't sound 'thick' at all, just asking a question

LST is Low Stress Training but basically its using string or pins etc to pull or tie down the most vigorous growing shoots to encourage lower growth to catch up and to give the plant shape. Theres a thread running here on it somewhere.

In a 12/12 grow from seed you can still use LST to get the plant into the bushy shape you want. Heres one of mine just taken today and you can see the strings which are holding the shape of the plant.

Its just another method really and I do it because my cabinet is just 1metre high so I have to keep my plants below 18" tall. It also has the advantage of keeping all the bud sights up there right under the lights so they develop more evenly

Bit brief but hope it helps.

CV.

Thank you.

I found a thread on here and another one with diagrams - both very helpful.

http://forum.grasscity.com/absolute-...-training.html

Next grow, I'll give it a go.

Thanks again, great advice.

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Those look great CV. I'm on day 35 and don't even see flowers yet but only preflowers still. Sucks. I think I stressed them out somehow.

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Nice plant cerebralvibrator... Very impressive... Well ive decided to take new direction with all my growing... the 12\12 is definitely for me, but alas my household is an energy efficient household and the HPS doesnt have an energy star anywhere on it.
Im going to be using CFLs and a smaller growing area. So before i completely finish the crop i am currently on and start my new venture i was just wondering if i could get some suggestions from the pros. things i am wondering about include

what size pots
mixing of light spectrum or straight 2700K
transplanting-neccessary or not
nutes- what kind (though i would find it hard to let go of the Jacks african violet food (flowering)) maybe an add-in
any other suggestions or tips would be helpful

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I've got one plant thats half way through flower, soil, and I'd like to start my hydroponic build. I'm so impatient I can't wait till the soil plant is done flowering. Think I should go ahead and start the hydro at 12/12 with the soil plant finishing, or should I just wait a month and grow the hydro a couple weeks vegged.

nice example there cerebralvibrator.
ive got one a bit younger that im bending and its taking a similar shape to yours.


heres a new pic of my eldest 2 12/12ers at 12wks old now
and the top of one of last years plants that i bent and tied

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whiteskunk 250w HPS/bagseed 12/12

for pots, im using 3" 6" then 10", theres some good reasons to transplant but its not a requirement.
for lights, i use the HPS from the start, little 250w puts out a lot of light for little watts and a lot more than 250w of CFL will. CFLs can work good too tho.
for nutes, im just using a cheap local brand, Manutec, theyre cheap theyve got a good selection and are easy to get local. use what you can get, itll all work but some will work better. add extra PK in flowering, something like GH koolbloom or Canna pk13/14 type stuff to improve bud growth, again not a requirement but it helps. i also like to add a little epsom salts every feeding for extra Mg, mj uses a bit more Mg than what some generic type nutes provide. see label for details.
tip, Dont overwater! learn the weight of your pots.

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nice post people ... to bad for me tho only one of my seeds sprouted and its been like 4 days

no pics but im very excite... all of my clones are now flowering and its only day 16 awesome... and compared to the pics i posted on day 11 they are twice that size now, pretty much doubled in 5 days all except for the one clone that started flowering day 11 that one is still short, but none the less yay i love 12\12 only

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would it hurt my plants much if i transplant them now- 3wks into flowering

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