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Old 08-22-2009, 12:53 AM
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did u try flushing them yet?
try more run off as well and raise your ph to 5.8.
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did u try flushing them yet?
try more run off as well and raise your ph to 5.8.

i flushed them for a couple days before the switch to canna nutes. i ran literally gallons of straight ro water through each pot each day.

something crazy i didn't mention, the first time i fed with canna after flushing i gave them about 600ppm and the runoff was a 45ppm. i checked over and over to be sure. even now my runoff ppm's are at 300-400 after feeding at 750ppm! are they just eating that much?

after checking out each plant i can see that some of them have redirected growth to the least damaged growing tips while others are in kind of a stalemate with all their growing tips fried. i'll continue vegging the ones that are trying hardest and see if some of those new shoots will clone. otherwise, things will go a lot better with the clones i pick up next week now that i won't be using gh nutes.

...and i'll try upping the pH a bit. runoff swings from 6.3-6.9 without any logic that i can see so that's why i try to keep input pH low but i'm sure what's going in matters more than what's coming out.

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i don't mean to come off like an ass, sometimes it just happens, lol. f.o.s. means full of shit. it's also a medical condition, LOL. i'm no expert, but i've been using coco for quite a while. sometimes questions get answered by folks who have only read on certain subjects. this is how confusion gets spread. it's best to go to a few sites and just read your ass off. there's loads of great info. out there on coco. it's been around for a while now, but seems to really be taking off recently. i go to a few sites and found people really liking coco. it is a bit pricey to get the non-block kind, but it can be re-used for like 3 grows. i just throw some bennies in it (zymes too) and a week or so later, it's good to go... i want to try outdoors sooooo bad...

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i get my best results on coco that has been used 2 or 3 times. Nothing really wrong with the 1st time but bigger better yields on used coco. I re use my slabs 4 or 5 times have used some before for up to 8 times. i do use extra zyme when they are 2 or 3 times used.

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Old 08-22-2009, 08:52 AM
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hello people can u use coco without usein a hydroponic system or autopots or will it dry out too quick as i can only water once aday thanks
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yes you can....the 1st method I tried with coco ((my 2nd indoor grow)) was the with double pots and I hand watered once a day,,,I got 2 pounds of buds from 4 plants :^D
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Took this pic this mornin bout 2 hours after feeding... She is standing at attention n lovin those Canna nutes!

To some this may be regular, but this is my second grow and it looks kinda crazy to me...
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Hey,

i get my best results on coco that has been used 2 or 3 times. Nothing really wrong with the 1st time but bigger better yields on used coco. I re use my slabs 4 or 5 times have used some before for up to 8 times. i do use extra zyme when they are 2 or 3 times used.

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i get better yields my second use of coco as well. i only use mine twice cuz i get scared of using it too many times.
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i flushed them for a couple days before the switch to canna nutes. i ran literally gallons of straight ro water through each pot each day.

something crazy i didn't mention, the first time i fed with canna after flushing i gave them about 600ppm and the runoff was a 45ppm. i checked over and over to be sure. even now my runoff ppm's are at 300-400 after feeding at 750ppm! are they just eating that much?

after checking out each plant i can see that some of them have redirected growth to the least damaged growing tips while others are in kind of a stalemate with all their growing tips fried. i'll continue vegging the ones that are trying hardest and see if some of those new shoots will clone. otherwise, things will go a lot better with the clones i pick up next week now that i won't be using gh nutes.

...and i'll try upping the pH a bit. runoff swings from 6.3-6.9 without any logic that i can see so that's why i try to keep input pH low but i'm sure what's going in matters more than what's coming out.

thanks for the help.
yes, yer ppm's are coming out lower cuz the plant is eating.
maybe your ph is coming out high because of those days flushing with non ph'd water? if u flushed with tap water than it probably has a higher ph than desired. 6.9 run off is high for coco.

ph and ppm run off from coco are not 100% accurate but they still give you a rough idea of whats happening in your medium.

my run off is usually close to what it was when it went in, ppm and ph wise.

wonder why yer havin soo much trouble... got any recent pics?
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yes, yer ppm's are coming out lower cuz the plant is eating.
maybe your ph is coming out high because of those days flushing with non ph'd water? if u flushed with tap water than it probably has a higher ph than desired. 6.9 run off is high for coco.

ph and ppm run off from coco are not 100% accurate but they still give you a rough idea of whats happening in your medium.

my run off is usually close to what it was when it went in, ppm and ph wise.

wonder why yer havin soo much trouble... got any recent pics?

they look pratically the same as the pics that i posted on page 28 of this thread, just with some yellowing of the more damaged leaves and there's tiny little new shoots on some of them.

i flushed with ro water that's at about 6.5pH and 0-5ppm.

my runoff is getting more consistent, they must have been starving after two days of flushing.

i'm pretty sure most of my trouble is the irrepairable damage casued by the obviously imbalanced diet they were getting.

i'm going to hit up some dispensaries tomorrow and see what i can find to just replace the most tore back bitches. a couple of my hindu skunks will be able to provide cuttings so i don't have to repurchase that strain, but i'm not as optimistic about my gdp or purple kush.

really sucks, too. most folks that grow from seed probably think buying clones must be so easy...i drove almost five hours round trip for my gdp cuttings to get them from the gdp collective in san pablo, ca. their unique gdp strain is one of the most beautiful cannabis plants i've ever seen and the smoke is on par with everything else i've tried. at least if i have to go back i can ask about the genetics...

also, i'm going to run some of this next batch in a new dwc setup that i'm working on right now. that way even if i fuck up with the coco again i won't be so screwed.
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hello people i was guna start using coco but i always fort u could only use it with hydroponics so if i was guna use coco could i use it and only water once aday as i dont have a hydro system thanks
 

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