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Old 05-30-2007, 08:39 AM
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Hi All,
well first of all this is my first time posting and I would like to thanks everybody involved in this forum as it's an invaluable resource of information.
I am in the middle of my first ever grow, it all started when a friend came back from Oaxaca in Mexico with some seeds.
I thought why the hell not and went ahead trying an organic grow with cfl.
It all spiraled from there, I have way more cfls in the cabinet now compared to when I started and spent way more money than planned.
the babies have been on 12/12 for almost 2 weeks now and out of 8 plants I am pretty certain I have identified 3 males and 2 girls, the others I don't know yet.
I believe this to be a sativa strain as first it comes from mexico and second it's not bushy but elongated.
I have a couple of questions, I read on this page h**p://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/thc.html that this kind of marijuana apparently needs an 11 hours photo period i/e daytime. Is this true? Should I go ahead and give them 11/13 instead of 12/12?
Also, considering that the plants have been in veg for about 5 weeks before the change when can I expect to see the beginning of a bud?

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Hi All,
well first of all this is my first time posting and I would like to thanks everybody involved in this forum as it's an invaluable resource of information.
I am in the middle of my first ever grow, it all started when a friend came back from Oaxaca in Mexico with some seeds.
I thought why the hell not and went ahead trying an organic grow with cfl.
It all spiraled from there, I have way more cfls in the cabinet now compared to when I started and spent way more money than planned.
the babies have been on 12/12 for almost 2 weeks now and out of 8 plants I am pretty certain I have identified 3 males and 2 girls, the others I don't know yet.
I believe this to be a sativa strain as first it comes from mexico and second it's not bushy but elongated.
I have a couple of questions, I read on this page h**p://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/thc.html that this kind of marijuana apparently needs an 11 hours photo period i/e daytime. Is this true? Should I go ahead and give them 11/13 instead of 12/12?
Also, considering that the plants have been in veg for about 5 weeks before the change when can I expect to see the beginning of a bud?

thanks again for all your help
First of all, don't expect great bud out of Oaxacan pot. It is pretty but not too good in the THC dept. It is sativa unless you have some hybrid but it sounds like sativa. As for daylight, as soon as you kick to 12/12 it will be a week to three to see the pistils but if you look real careful above the 5th or 6th nodes, you may see sex showing up now. Be patient and good luck with a grow of that strain. Coming from outdoors to in it will be interesting to see how long it takes to mature but it should be 8 to 10 weeks no matter what.
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well to awnser your question...11-13...yes do it....plants from this area generally flower better in this type of growth...
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:41 AM
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OK,
well let's consider it a test run. Besides I am not what you call a smoker anyway. I rarely smoke and most of the time is not skunk so I hope it will at least do something.
Are you saying good luck because it's a difficult strain?
Also do you have any idea about this 11 hours photoperiod I was reading about?
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whoops I was a bit too impatient there, will do 11/13 then.
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HI All,
I can't believe it but out of 8 plants 7 turned out to be males.
I think I whould like to keep her as a mom.
Do you guys think I can put it back into veg after 2 weeks of 12/12?
She hasn't budded yet just shown sex.
Also I have been toying with the idea of making a bubbler? do you guys think it would be a good idea to keep her as a mom and get 4 clones to be put in a bubbler?
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hey gigi!

great strain- oaxacan is great smoke, long time no see...like panama red. anyway you will want alot of light for her. chances are she will have some seeds but that is great! keep a male for pollenation. im guessing you are growing inside because you A) dont have a suitable outdoor location and/or B) you dont live in the right climate. point being made is to reach full potential of this plant or full thc "realization" she will need to be pollenated and flowered outside for almost 3 mo. the sun spectrum in lat october, and the weather changing will cause the plant to try and "secure" the seeds and the thc that is produced is not like any skunk you will ever smoke. hard to tame indoor but def possible with the right light. I would do 6h45m light and 12h dark. but thats just me
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HI,
yes I am growing inside because of location and climate.
I'm trying to give her as much light as possible but can't use hps as it is in a wall closet and I can't make holes in it.
I have 1 120watt warm eco-light on top plus 3 20watt 2700k and 2 25watt biobulbs, all on top. on the sides I have 3 25watts bulbs too. Don't know if it will be enough but it's just about 20000 lumens.
I don't quite get your post, what is the chance of her having seeds if I get rid of the male?
Are you saying that I should pollinate this plant to have a better result?
Also do you think I would be able to clone her? Do you think growing the clones in a bubbler will work?
Also how can I give her just 6h45m of light a day with 12 hours dark? that would shorten her day by 5h1m is that what you mean?
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Do the 11/13 or 10/14 for these or they will certainly overgrow you. They may anyway...but...

I would clone that lady..and then when I have roots on my clones I'd toss her into flower. Again...she's gonna be a monster...i'm guessing she'll go 10-14 weeks in flower...maybe more.

Good to see ya growing..but this will be a bit of a stretch...pun internded for a first grow. Chances are it'll take 3 weeks or more to start to bud...

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basically thc production is dependent on different factors that occur naturally. one of them (land race) is the preoduction of seeds. most himalyan, afghans, nepalese, mexican are all plants grown for seed and hash. very resinous. psychadelic highs. most mexican strains are hemos and will produce some seeds weither pollenated or not by a male. so exspect some seeds when harvesting. cannabis plants count the days by the photoperiods, not how long they are. cannabis plants also use only 6 hours of the light given (im not sure if that has been proven though) because this sativa will have a really long flower time, you can shorten the days by manipulating the photo period thus shortining the time of youo grow.
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