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Old 05-14-2007, 11:13 AM
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Hey everybody.

I am just about ready to germinate the seeds I got form Nirvana (Blue Mystic, Northern Lights, Papaya, Skunk #1, Super Skunk). My goal is to have my own kick ass mother garden that I can clone from (I've gotten the groClone clone machine, and a 2ft, 2 bulb florescent light for rooting the clones); I want to have 6-8 mother plants eventually...

I am not handy at all, so I am looking into purchasing the equipment so that I can just plug and grow.


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Waterfarm 8 pack/Contoller Kit
GENERAL HYDROPONICS

EcoPlus 4" Blower
EcoPlus In-line Blowers from 4 hydroponics.com by Growco Indoor Garden Supply

New Wave T5-24
New Wave T5 High Output Fluorescents, a grow light option for plant cloning / plant propagation from 4 hydroponics.com by Growco Indoor Garden Supply

Does this look like a solid plan to having a killer mother garden? Your thoughts and comments are appreciated.
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:20 AM
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When you buy the New Wave T5 look here: Hydroponics | Hydroponic Supplies

It's much cheaper than the site you listed.
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When you buy the New Wave T5 look here: Hydroponics | Hydroponic Supplies

It's much cheaper than the site you listed.
Thanks. I did check out what BGHydro had, and did some price comparison. They didn't have the Homebox, but the Hydrohut is just fine.

BG HYDRO:

ItemItem NameUMQtyPriceAmountDelete New Wave T5 System - 2', 4 Bulb

EA $119.95 $119.95New Wave T5 Fixture Only - 2', 4 Bulb1 2nd two T5 Lamps - 24W, 2', 6500K2 2nd two T5 Lamps - 24W, 2', 6500K2

WaterFarm Controller Kit by G.H.

EA $274.95 $274.95

EcoPlus 4" Centrifugal Fan 170 cfm

EA $129.95 $129.95

HydroHut Original Grow Room

EA $249.95 $249.95

Total Weight: 141.00lbs. Total Qty: 4 Total: $774.80 Shipping is an extra $39, bringing the total to $813.80.


4HYDROPONICS.com:

then clickNew Wave T5-24, 2-foot, 4-lamp, 6500K COOL$159.95 ea.1 $159.95 change qty
then clickEcoPlus 4 inch in-line blower - 170 CFM$111.95 ea.1 $111.95 change qty
then clickHomebox XL$250.05 ea.1 $250.05 change qty
then clickWaterfarm Controller KIT$269.95 ea.1 $269.95 change qty
Order Subtotal:$791.90
  • Shipping weight: 88.50
  • Shipping cost is estimated.
  • Orders will be confirmed via email.
shipping:$0.00Grand Total:$791.90

The free shipping with 4hydroponics.com keeps the total at 791.90... even though I am paying more an individual item or two, with the shipping factored in I am saving $21.90 with 4hydro. Free shipping rules!!!

Thanks for the info/link. Comparison shopping is the way to shop!
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Just my two cents, and maybe i missed the upgrade. You will want more than 2-2ft' bulbs to use for your clones. Check out Al B's picture of his cloning area. VV
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Just my two cents, and maybe i missed the upgrade. You will want more than 2-2ft' bulbs to use for your clones. Check out Al B's picture of his cloning area. VV

The plan is for (4) of the 2 footers... I will check's Al B's cloning pics - thanks for the 411.
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others may not like this response, but this is what i do, and i have great results.

moms need very little light and space. only enough to survive and put out shoots. i keep my mothers in a 6'' pot for a year+ with no problems, which keeps them small and managable (bonzai).

the largest mother i have is 12x12x12 inchess, and that's even a little big for me. i get thirty+ slips per pruning with these bonsai mommas...

now, for lighting... this is going to sound bassackward, as everything you've ever read or heard says that pot needs as much light as you can possibly give it.

this is not true for mothers. with moms, the idea is to take cuttings, and you want 3-4'' slips. to acheive this, place one 23w cfl about a foot above each mom. if your moms are small, you can fit two per 23w cfl. this will allow the shoots to stretch a little, providing you with the "perfect slip".

i keep my mothers in my veg room, and just stick them in a corner somewhere, and forget about them for two weeks at a time. then, i water (prepares the slips), let sit for two hours, then take cuttings. on average, my moms are 4-6 feet away from the 400w mh.

if i left anything out, or you have any other q's, let me know; i hope this helps you.

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Killer stuff. Much thanks to all.

Once I sell my Mesa/Boogie Triple Rectifier 1/2 stack I'll have the cheddar to make my mother garden a reality... should be within the next week or two.

...then I will have 3 Homeboxes (mother/clone, vegg, flower) kickin ass in the name of THC.

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I just placed my order for my mother garden materials.

I changed/updated some pieces, but I am confident I am gonna be pretty stoked with the 6 different mothers. I'll start germinating some of the seeds I got from Nirvana after the goods arrive.

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Sunleaves Lightwave Batwing w/400MH
General Hydroponics EcoGrower
EcoPlus In-line 4" exhaust fan
Sunlift Reflector Hanging kit

I'll start looking for a "lazy susan" for the EcoGrower to sit on, so I can just spin it around to tend to the different plants.... hopefully a local thirftstore will have one for me. I'm hoping to keep each of the mothers between 12 & 24 inches tall, nice and bushy. We'll see.

I also want to keep my groClone & clones (and the 2 2ft shop lights) in there some how, too. Hmmmm....

Your thoughts and opinions are welcome!
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You can get a swivel stand for a television, so it's sturdy enough to hold some weight.
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Dude, exactly!!
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