White Widow Hydro Fog journal

bobbyboy34 · #1 11-16-2008, 12:48 PM

Started some WW beans, the germed good in a custom fogging setup, i'll post picture later of that when i setup my germ area in my grow room.

set up a hydro room with 600watt Sunmaster MH, mylar and a 110liter/min air pump, the seedlings were yellowing and the stem was purple so i started them on nutes yesterday at 1/2 strength

I plan on keeping a grow log here, see how things work out and maybe people can help me if i run into any trouble

dgafaboutanyone · #2 11-16-2008, 03:26 PM

looking good >_<

bobbyboy34 · #3 11-17-2008, 03:04 PM

Made a few temporary adjustments to the hydro system. Using a submerable water pump with two 360 sprinklers until the water chiller comes in today then i'll be making it a DWC with water just touching the bottom of the net pots.

The chiller is a ecoPlus chiller amde for hydroponics, 1/10 HP. Should keep the water chilled all the time at the perfect temp (68F). This should be my final addition to the system.

My main concern is getting the roots long enough to start the vigorous growth. You can have the coolest hydro setup, but if you don't start with making the roots grow your plants wont do doodoo. Some roots are long, i'd say myl ongest one is 4inches. Im using rapid rooter plugs, this medium is hard to over water and has a great air-to-water ratio.

After i setup the water chiller and all i'll post up some more pics, also turned off the AC to see if the temp would get too high, for now the temps are good, about 81-83F

wish me luck, any comments or suggestions are welcomed

bobbyboy34 · #4 11-18-2008, 09:50 AM

sorry no pics, everything is still the same, the water chiller didn't come yesterday, i was kind of upset. Im going to go pick it up today, but as of now i dodn't even need it, i might end up selling it, but i'll hold on to it for a little bit just in case.

i took out the fogger because it was heating up the res too much. I emptied the res because the fogger heat turned the res water to a dark brown when it was carmel milky the other day (1 days time). So i made it DWC

I put about 12 gallons of RO water in the res, added FF nutes both grow big and big bloom @ 1/2 stregth. Leaves are still in good shape just yellowing, but the leaves are pointed slightly up towards the light and still have growth, i can see more of the second set of leaves now on most of the seedlings. I raised the HID so that it is about 2ft, really bright powerful light has said to bleach the color of the leaf. Both res temp and ambient are great. I also lifted the rapid rooter pluug a bit more from the bottom of the net pot, they now sit about 3/4 - 1in above the bottom of the net pot. I have the DWC water just covering the bottom of the net pot. Topped the soil plant, first time topping so we'll see if it work for me. I have three 4x10 micro fibre klin burned air stones with a 110 litre/min air pump, LOTS and LOTS of air bubbles. I'll take some photos when things start to green up and roots find the DWC water

I have a smasll movie i made, but i don't know where i can upload it

bobbyboy34 · #5 11-19-2008, 02:44 PM

Day 4

Plants look good this morning when i woke up, they are healing from the yellowing along with starting on their third set of leaves. Balanced PH back to where it needs to be.

Doing a little Experiment, i took 1/4 strength blooming nutes 0-6-4 and put it in a gallon of warm water. I read somwhere giving seedlings a little warmth ensures a health lifespan. So i ph'd the water and added it to three of the now 9 seedlings. I had 8 at first but another one that i had germinated came through so i decided to through it in with the rest.

I watered the rest as to none of them have roots yet touching the DWC water. I took water from the res and watering the plugs with that. Will see how they look later, maybe along with some updated pics

bobbyboy34 · #6 11-24-2008, 09:52 AM

day 5(11/20) pictures, sorry for the delay, have been real busy doing things around the house, but finally made some time to take pics

also added a new sprout to the crew(see last pic)

bobbyboy34 · #7 11-24-2008, 10:42 AM

day 9

I removed the mylar from the top of the res, that stuff was getting so annoying when ever i went to open the res top. Made lots of noise and just got in the way so i removed it.

On day 6 i decided to put full strength nutes due to the fact that the leaves were yellowing, i even gave full strength to the little sprout that just started, they all seem to love it. Leaves are much greener now and larger.

Most plants are starting on their third and fourth set of leaves, yet i see no visible roots. I have 6" net pots maybe thats why. I see a lot of people here use smaller net pots and get roots popping out so fast. I only see roots on one of my plants and they are not yet well developed

That leads me to the question, how come the foilage is growing great, and looks great, yet there are no visible roots?.

Still haven't hooked up chiller, haven't needed it yet. I recieved a bulb i bought from HTG supply, it was crap, it was really bright the first day or two then it went to about half its stated lumens, so i went back to my lovely SUNMASTER MH

the soil plant is doing great, this morning i watered it with a big of EJ catalyst and Super Thrive, you can see the leaf that was growing has more luster

So a total of nine days since sprouts were put into DWC system, Three to four sets of leaves with roots barely showing. Any comments or suggestions to get those roots nice and long???

fred1 · #8 11-24-2008, 02:10 PM

Are you using feminized seeds?

If not, and you have a male, how will you extract it from the other ones being that have put two seedlings in one net pot?

bobbyboy34 · #9 11-24-2008, 02:13 PM

yes, i am using feminized seeds.

and i friggin hope i didn't get screwed was given males. Even if so, i think if you just cut the stem down by the grow medium the plant will be good until the others are done

i use hygrozyme which eats dead roots anyways

fred1 · #10 11-24-2008, 02:19 PM

Looks good man. I just started a DWC setup as well and I am right behind you by a couple days. Using 4 inch net pots and all the roots have popped quite a bit. Your roots should be hitting the water in a couple more days I'd guess.

I'll be keeping track of this one, good luck!

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