COCO PEEPS! the best coco nutrient range? any secret recipes?

Basald

Active Member
Right now I am using the following in flower with no flushing prior to h2o only the last 5 days.

Canna Coco A/B 1-5ml/gal ease up 1ml per week from clone and back down before flush
Canna Rhizotonic 1-10ml/gal (higher dose for initial wetting and transplanting)
Canna Cannazyme 4ml/gal continually
Canna Boost 1-5ml/gal
Canna PK13/14 3ml/gal in weeks in weeks 3 and 4, sometimes 5
HCO Purple Maxx Snow Storm 2ml/gal as soon as budding begins
HCO Gravity 2ml/gal last 2 weeks
AdvNutes Overdrive 4ml/gal last 3 weeks
Botanicare Cal-mag Plus 5ml/gal continually
Botanicare Sweet 5-30ml/gal ease up from 5-10-20-30 and stay @ 30 right up to flush
Botanicare Hydroguard 5ml/gal weekly on top of normal feeding



I dislike this feeding schedule for one reason only: Cost. Canna Boost is an amazing product but it costs an arm and a leg especially when used drain to waste with runoff. I use Sweet in very high doses and I go through gallons pretty quickly. I would like to try Sweet Leaf from Advanced as well as Flora Nectar from GH to replace Sweet as my primary flavor additive. I like the distinct flavor of Sweet Leaf but I like the molasses in the GH stuff.


There is a GH 3-part recipe with very few additives that can be found on icmag in the coco forums that I am going to try soon, probably run after next. GH is impressing me w/ coco.

I have no complaints about the quality of my product using the above. I get heavy yields of very frosty and flavorful buds but it just isnt enough to justify the costs.
 

Silky Shagsalot

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i've used canna's a&b in coco and did well. i used their pk 13/14 in flower. now i use house and gardens coco line. this is some great stuff. i also use their multi enzym, top booster, bud xl and roots excelurator. usually in the 800's ppm. i run a ph of 5.8 throughout.
 

kaos.underwave

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thanks for the info basald,

wow, you get two or three weeks of pk 13/14, plus the others, and no regular flushing?
I suppose that shows you get the doses just right..

I am also very interested in canna boost, but the price keeps putting me off, I know I'd get through that stuff so quickly, too. Looking at the comparative price and concentration of hesi's boost product supervit [1ml/65l £20/100ml] made me change my mind. Now I feel like I'm missing out, hehe damn

do you find the cal-mag plus a significant additive, or just icing on the cake?
How is the botanicare working out for you?

I'm trying not to go crazy building up a costly concoction too :)
 

kaos.underwave

Active Member
house and garden, ey silky? I didn't even think they were crop specific, but I guess with something called 'bud xl'...glad to hear you're liking it anyway.. :)

Better than Canna you say?
What made you switch?
 

Silky Shagsalot

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house and garden, ey silky? I didn't even think they were crop specific, but I guess with something called 'bud xl'...glad to hear you're liking it anyway.. :)
Better than Canna you say? What made you switch?
i used canna a few years back and then bought some more recently. i had a little plastic cup, pre-marked for canna coco nutes. i used it both times and noticed that canna had started watering down their nutes. it's strength was reduced by about 1/5 th. i thought that was pretty crappy so i stopped using it. i started using house and garden after i got some free samples from my grow shop.
 

mrfloaty

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Easy guys and gals been using coco for a few years now and love it, use the usual A/B 10-15ml in 5ltr. Ryzotonic 8-13 ml in 5ltr during the growing and veg stage then to 2-5ml in 5ltr during flowering, cannazyme i use 8-12ml in 5ltr from start to finish after good roots have developed, PK13/14 this i have had a few grows to find out what it can really do and have found that its can be used heavaly or as much as your plant can take for as long as it takes to show nute burn when this happens i flushed with canna flush for 1 water then 1 plain water flush then back on full strength nuts, use canna boost through the flowering stage at 10-15ml in 5ltr with good results, but i would like to ask if anyone knows an equally good boost that is cheeper than the canna boost ..........
 

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jberry

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Easy guys and gals been using coco for a few years now and love it, use the usual A/B 10-15ml in 5ltr. Ryzotonic 8-13 ml in 5ltr during the growing and veg stage then to 2-5ml in 5ltr during flowering, cannazyme i use 8-12ml in 5ltr from start to finish after good roots have developed, PK13/14 this i have had a few grows to find out what it can really do and have found that its can be used heavaly or as much as your plant can take for as long as it takes to show nute burn when this happens i flushed with canna flush for 1 water then 1 plain water flush then back on full strength nuts, use canna boost through the flowering stage at 10-15ml in 5ltr with good results, but i would like to ask if anyone knows an equally good boost that is cheeper than the canna boost ..........
totally agree on using the pk more than suggested... after trying to time the pk just right a few runs i decided to just use it from first signs of flower to about 2 weeks before harvest at 4ml per gallon instead of 6ml per gallon that canna suggest, i still bump it up to 6 for the 4th week then back down... im getting way better results and never got any nute burn at all !

what kinda results are you seeing from the cannaboost accelerator??
i stopped using it after talking to canna a lot about the product, they straight up told me "it wont really help with yield, just quality" i did notice that it seemed to knock a few days off my flower time but other than that, i cant tell the difference between using it full dose (16 ml per gal.) or not using it at all ! im now saving over $1000.00 per cycle by not using the boost.

although it should be noted that i replaced the boost with house and gardens Bud XL so maybe that stuff is kinda similar even though its less than half the price?? idk they're both green but the h&g stuff looks like mouthwash and the canna boost is thick and dark... haha who knows.

I to would like to know of all alternatives to the canna boost accelerator...

MR.FLOATY, any thoughts on the h&g's bud xl as a alternative? seems to be working great but im not sure that they are even that similar of products?
 

Properlike

Active Member
totally agree on using the pk more than suggested... after trying to time the pk just right a few runs i decided to just use it from first signs of flower to about 2 weeks before harvest at 4ml per gallon instead of 6ml per gallon that canna suggest, i still bump it up to 6 for the 4th week then back down... im getting way better results and never got any nute burn at all !

what kinda results are you seeing from the cannaboost accelerator??
i stopped using it after talking to canna a lot about the product, they straight up told me "it wont really help with yield, just quality" i did notice that it seemed to knock a few days off my flower time but other than that, i cant tell the difference between using it full dose (16 ml per gal.) or not using it at all ! im now saving over $1000.00 per cycle by not using the boost.

although it should be noted that i replaced the boost with house and gardens Bud XL so maybe that stuff is kinda similar even though its less than half the price?? idk they're both green but the h&g stuff looks like mouthwash and the canna boost is thick and dark... haha who knows.

I to would like to know of all alternatives to the canna boost accelerator...

MR.FLOATY, any thoughts on the h&g's bud xl as a alternative? seems to be working great but im not sure that they are even that similar of products?
IF You are going to use Boost by Canna just use it as a foliar spray as I do for the first 2 weeks of budding it will accelerate bud development and you'll use a shit ton less I have that ity-bity bottle which has lasted me nearly three grows going on four.
 

jberry

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IF You are going to use Boost by Canna just use it as a foliar spray as I do for the first 2 weeks of budding it will accelerate bud development and you'll use a shit ton less I have that ity-bity bottle which has lasted me nearly three grows going on four.
thats what im doing now too.
canna says you can foliar spray until week four... and no ph adjustment unless its like a ph of 8 or higher.

canna just hooked me up with a free 5 liter of boost!!!... a $500.00 dollar value :)
 

cappeeler09

Active Member
Right now I am using the following in flower with no flushing prior to h2o only the last 5 days.

Canna Coco A/B 1-5ml/gal ease up 1ml per week from clone and back down before flush
Canna Rhizotonic 1-10ml/gal (higher dose for initial wetting and transplanting)
Canna Cannazyme 4ml/gal continually
Canna Boost 1-5ml/gal
Canna PK13/14 3ml/gal in weeks in weeks 3 and 4, sometimes 5
HCO Purple Maxx Snow Storm 2ml/gal as soon as budding begins
HCO Gravity 2ml/gal last 2 weeks
AdvNutes Overdrive 4ml/gal last 3 weeks
Botanicare Cal-mag Plus 5ml/gal continually
Botanicare Sweet 5-30ml/gal ease up from 5-10-20-30 and stay @ 30 right up to flush
Botanicare Hydroguard 5ml/gal weekly on top of normal feeding



I dislike this feeding schedule for one reason only: Cost. Canna Boost is an amazing product but it costs an arm and a leg especially when used drain to waste with runoff. I use Sweet in very high doses and I go through gallons pretty quickly. I would like to try Sweet Leaf from Advanced as well as Flora Nectar from GH to replace Sweet as my primary flavor additive. I like the distinct flavor of Sweet Leaf but I like the molasses in the GH stuff.


There is a GH 3-part recipe with very few additives that can be found on icmag in the coco forums that I am going to try soon, probably run after next. GH is impressing me w/ coco.

I have no complaints about the quality of my product using the above. I get heavy yields of very frosty and flavorful buds but it just isnt enough to justify the costs.
yo basald im using all the canna nutrients youre using ive been trying to find out if i could use cannaboost then switch to over drive i would appreciate it if u or anybody can help me...beacuse ive always been told to use big bud then over drive but ive already got my canna nutrients....somebody help me....I NEED SOME FAT COLAS
 

jberry

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canna boost accelerator isnt a nutrient and doesnt change your EC... you can use it with any brand of nutes.
dont use the pk 13/14 with overdrive or big bud, but u can use cannaboost with either.
 

M Blaze

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I use Nutrifield A+B nutes and they are good for the price. I also use Grotek Monster Grow and Monster Bloom which are both excellent products I would reccomend. Other products in my feed schedule are Budmeister, Liquid Lead, Pythoff and Sensa spray.

Ive been very happy with all those products and they have worked great for me.
 

cappeeler09

Active Member
thanks bro....so just dont use pk 13/14 at all..... or still use it as normal in my coco schedule and then switch to over drive?
 

jberry

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use pk 13/14 or hammerhead pk 9/18 for three weeks, then stop using the pk and start using a stronger flower boost for the last three weeks of bloom... but dont use a pk with other flower ferts... cannaboost isnt a fert so u can use it with any brand while flowering.

or some people only use the pk for one week but u better know exactly which week your strain likes it if u go that route.
 

ManOnFire

Active Member
Advanced, Canna, House and Garden, Dutch Master are all pretty much on par. I know people who use them all on a rotation basis and they cant see a difference, other than price. Canna and HG are twice the price of Advanced or Dutch here.
 
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