True Aero Growing "TAG" - Page 2

mdgcmd · #11 05-03-2008, 10:38 PM

Ok so I added some small upgrades to the plumbing lines because the other ones were not flexible enough when the floor rolled out. Also this black tube is lightproof without having to tape or use foam covering. At first it was having trouble sucking up water, then I took a look and seen that the filter was backwards and needed to be taking care of. I also took a pic of the box with the light reflector in it. I guess it will give you all a better imagine of what is going on.

potroast · #12 05-04-2008, 12:44 AM

Good looking stuff! I assume that True Aero means always having the roots suspended, and never submerged in the runoff flow. So how much space do you have for your roots to hang? I'd say that you can count on root growth of at least a foot a week.

HTH

mdgcmd · #13 05-04-2008, 12:54 AM

Will the tote that the roots are in is something like 22 gallons, I would say that I have about a foot from lid to bottom. And yes you are right about the roots suspending, and because of the way I designed the system there is not really any "runoff" it drains right back into the res, but I know what you meant. I read on one of the links I posted that one of the guys was getting 2 full CM of vertical every 12 hours. The roots on the other hand really should not get to big. They are supplied with everything that they need and do not need to go looking if you know what I mean.

These are what the roots should look like, little pom pom roots is what we call them. Once again this is not my picture or my idea, but I think I am the first on this site to mention anything about it.

bigwheel · #14 05-04-2008, 04:21 PM

Hey MD..thanks a lot for them tips on the lights. That is whut I need most of all. Remind me later if I forget about this topic. Thanks.

Big Wheel

mdgcmd · #15 05-04-2008, 06:24 PM

Dude I am just happy to have helped you out. There is no need to thank me but I appreciate it without a doubt. Thank you for listening in and being intrested in my journal. I will name it later in the journal section and then copy and paste a bunch of info from here to there. Before I do all that I need to finish this box and figure out what seeds I should grow. Once I get it all together I will think of a catchy clever name that will keep us all coming back. From searching around I would say that I have a unique setup for this website. By no means is this an original idea but I haven'e seen anything like this here. I have a cutting edge light system, and virtually the very best grow method in use today. I am still crossing the learning curve and I fear that I am not even around the bend. I would like to encourage everyone to participate in this thread, and hopeful I can encourage some of you to try your hand at this technique. The info is out there and together we can popularize this method.

This method focuses on a "perfect" root zone environment. Obviously nothing is perfect so we all do our best right. We all know that DWC is a great way to grow and is pretty fast right. Now what if your plants grew 45% faster in terms of size not maturity. If you can obtain as close to a perfect root zone as possible we already know the better the root the better the plant.

Go and check out the links I posted there is an enormous amount of pictures that will impress even the most veteran of growers.

potroast · #16 05-04-2008, 11:02 PM

Like I said, the roots will grow to the bottom in a week, and bunch up into a thick mat of solid roots. After a couple of months, it won't look so perfect.

HTH

mdgcmd · #17 05-04-2008, 11:27 PM

I can't say for certain if that will happen or not but I can say that it isn't suppose to. From what I have gathered the roots do grow large but nothing like in an NFT or DWC systems. In a DWC system the water level should be lower than your netpot as I am sure most of us here know. We do this to help encourage root growth, and it can also help in root rot prevention. With an NFT system roots follow the water as is runs, when the water stops the roots go looking. The NFT systems that are similar to aero systems irrigated by a pump and sprayer I mean, the roots follow the drips down to the bottom of the tank.

With a true aero system the mist is fine enough that it is absorbed very fast through the root pores. The mist is also on only long enough to feed the roots, and NOT SATURATE them causing drips. If there is no water for the roots to try and stretch to then they won't stretch. Once you fined the right watering schedules (be it 30sec. ON/ 3min. OFF, or 40sec. ON/ 2,in. OFF) the roots will never starve for water/nutes, and will never need to go searching for water.

I think I said all that right, and it really makes a lot of sense when you think about it.

mdgcmd · #18 05-04-2008, 11:48 PM

I made some more progress tonight but ran into some issues as well. As far as the progress goes I got me scrog screen inplace and mounted to the lid of the tote. I think that I did a really good job attaching the screen, it is actually very taught on level. I believe the dimension are 25"x17" so that will be my total plant growth area inside the box.

As for the bad news I cannot get my pump to prime and pressurize the lines. I am not getting any mist what so ever in the tote. I am not entirely sure what the problem as of right now. Tomorrow I plan to go to HD and buy new hose and run direct from the rez to the pump. I will rig the filter up so that is it mounted to the pump instead of the middle of the suction line. In the third pic you can see the filter very well and you can notice that it looks like it is slanted, so I think it might have an effect on the pump. There is also a chance that there is a leak somewhere in the line so that is why I am running just one tube. I am thinking that this will at least tell me if there is a line leak or if my pump is pooped. I hope the pump is ok as it was very expensive and is not is the budget. I did drop it about a week ago but I have had it pumping on many occasions sense then.

HATCH · #19 05-05-2008, 01:02 AM

Nice Set up!!

Be nice to see some Plant's in it.HEHEHE

mdgcmd · #20 05-05-2008, 04:16 PM

Hahaha I wish I had plants but then again what good are they if you are not finished building there bedroom lol. I have been working out the pump issues and the damn thing seem to work when it wants to. I am going out to the garage right now to see what I can get together. Hopefully I can get things worked out better.