Get a harvest every 2 weeks - Page 185

lawrencex34 · #**1841** 05-13-2008, 11:15 PM

So your saying flood about 2-3 inches up from the bottom of the pot?
My pot is about 7in. high and 6in wide.
How does the higher RW cubes get water?

Sorry for the questions just making sure =) THANKS

Al B. Fuct · #**1842** 05-14-2008, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AboveYourInfluence

Al, you are a hero and an inspiration, thank you for sharing your knowledge

thanks.

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Originally Posted by lawrencex34

So your saying flood about 2-3 inches up from the bottom of the pot?
My pot is about 7in. high and 6in wide.
How does the higher RW cubes get water?

Sorry for the questions just making sure =) THANKS

um, didn't I just say....

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Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct

Treat pots of mini RW cubes like pots of RW floc. Flood 1x/day only to about 50-75mm deep then drain immediately. Depends on your pump as to how long that will take, but you will probably want to have a digital timer as they allow for single minute increments in programming, rather than the minimum 15 min runtimes of most mechanical timers. Sufficient water will wick up into the RW to keep thing moving. Don't flood any higher than about 75mm.

davedub69 · #**1843** 05-14-2008, 04:49 AM

Al, thanks for the quick and informative response! I greatly apprecatie it all. I mentioned a chiller and u didn't know what one was. As far as my knowledge goes its a a/c unit they use in per say commercial freezer or such. They use water to remove the latent heat (i may using wrong words please forgive)

Here is a link to one with a lil info. 1 Fan Swamp Chiller
i've seen them used in hardcore Canadian Medical Grow ops. How often does your exhaust system run while the both cooltubed 1000w lights are on? THANKS again for taking your time to answer all our STONER grow question. stay red eyed.

Al B. Fuct · #**1844** 05-14-2008, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RisingStock

Suffering from nutrient lockout due to broken pH meter. [...]

Time for a new meter, eh?

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Any advice would be appreciated. Specifically, what to do now. (Sitting in tap water w/pH about 7.6-I THINK, no chems of any kind, at the moment.)

Don't leave them sitting in water for any length of time (ie more than 15 mins max). Will drown the roots- and you think you already had problems!

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Speaking of the pHup/down, in the winter just a touch was sufficient, lately it takes A LOT.(Which led me to believe the pH meter was broke...that and the fact it read 5.7 but with barley ANY nutes looked like Pics*)

Tapwater pH can vary seasonally and also after heavy rains in some areas. Heavy rain may wash pathogens out of catchments and into reservoirs, requiring additional treatment at the water plant.

What did the meter say when you put it in your 4.0 & 7.0 calibration solutions?

Al B. Fuct · #**1845** 05-14-2008, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by davedub69

1 Fan Swamp Chiller
i've seen them used in hardcore Canadian Medical Grow ops.

ah, swamp coolers. Not useful in grow ops, regardless of how many you have seen used in them. Patently unwise. They cool air only slightly by evaporating water. This will cause a huge spike in humidity. High humidity will encourage mould, powdery mildew, etc. Swamp coolers- nyet!

If your temps are too high and the air you have available for intake is below your target range of 24-26C, increase the ventilation throughflow. Use a bigger exhaust blower, install an intake blower, install cooltubes (highly effective for reducing temps) or otherwise improve the efficiency of the ventilation system. If ambient air available to pump through the op is warmer than 24-26C, aircon is unfortunately the only way to go.

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How often does your exhaust system run while the both cooltubed 1000w lights are on?

Hard to say. Varies tremendously depending upon the intake air temp. Now that we're in the cooler part of the year, with intake air at 16-18C, the exhaust doesn't have to run long nor often to hold the room at 25C +/- 1C, perhaps 4-5 mins a couple of times an hour, if that much.

firsttimegrowerr · #**1846** 05-14-2008, 12:17 PM

Hi Al, Iv been busy catching up on the thread. And in 3 pages of reading I learn more then 50 different articles. =)

I bought the GH Florea Nova Grow( 7-4-10) and Bloom (4-8-7). Do I just add nutes and match the ppm to your ppm and that would give me the same amount of nutes as you use? Also I read somewhere that h2o2 can be only added to tap water because it reacts with the nutes. How and when do you add it?

THANKS AL! id be so lost without you

cmak40 · #**1847** 05-14-2008, 01:00 PM

you must be lost with him then to because these answers are here to...look for your specific nute chart and foolow that chart. al uses canna nutrients which will probably have a diff feeding schedule. h2o2 is harmful for ORGANIC nutrients which have LIVING microorganisms and chemical nutrients do not have these propertise so they are not harmed by the peroxide...

al can you add a poll to see how many people are actually attempting this grow. i have followed this to a T since february and about 6 weeks from ACTUAL PERPETUAL growth. I HAVE READ ALL OF THIS THREAD AND COME BACK EVERYDAY TO FIND THE SAME QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. i would like to see how many people are actually using this info...

firsttimegrowerr · #**1848** 05-14-2008, 01:05 PM

Im acutally on page 85 of this thread trying to read every one. This is my first time ever growing so i just wanted to clear a few things up.

And i understand that diff nutes have different feeding sheduals but my question was can i just use the same ppm and will it work?

Sorry if these seem like stupid questions im still learning THanks

Al B. Fuct · #**1849** 05-14-2008, 03:07 PM

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I bought the GH Florea Nova Grow( 7-4-10) and Bloom (4-8-7). Do I just add nutes and match the ppm to your ppm and that would give me the same amount of nutes as you use?

Sorry, I really can't help you much with GH's stuff, I've never used it. I've always thought anything more than 2-part nutes are just too complex. 3-part nutes might be highly configurable, but do you REALLY need all that monkeying around? I've seen the GH/Lucas method discussed- and I think I'd rather blow my brains out than go to that level of stuffing around. However, as you said, it stands to reason that if you mix for 1400ppm, you ought not to get in any trouble.

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Also I read somewhere that h2o2 can be only added to tap water because it reacts with the nutes. How and when do you add it?

H2O2 will only react with organic based nutes. It will break down organic nutes straight away- you can watch the foaming action while it's happening, too! 'Chemical' based nutes are fine with H2O2.

When I mix a fresh tank, I fill each tank about halfway, add 125ml H2O2, then add the parts A&B of my nutes (450ml each these days) to get 1400-1560ppm per my Truncheon meter. About 10-15ml of pHDown is needed in each 125L tank (with the present pH of my tap water, 7.1 right now) to set the pH at 5.8. The nutes alone will get it to about 6.1.

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al can you add a poll to see how many people are actually attempting this grow. i have followed this to a T since february and about 6 weeks from ACTUAL PERPETUAL growth. I HAVE READ ALL OF THIS THREAD AND COME BACK EVERYDAY TO FIND THE SAME QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. i would like to see how many people are actually using this info...

The problem is that the thread is SO LONG that most people don't try to read it all the way through (big ups to everyone who has put in the time & effort!). Like I've said before, I have a lot of sympathy for anyone trying to use this thread as a reference. That's the main reason I keep getting asked the same stuff over and over and over. I do answer most questions out of courtesy, but it's nice when folks have clearly put in the time to read what I have put in quite a lot of time writing- and I do notice when someone has done the backgrounding.

Over the past year, I have seen a lot of folks make mention of having a go at the perpetual SoG, but there's surely just as many lurkers, quietly reading and just doing it. To be deadly honest, it's not so important for me to know how many people have implemented my scheme. My ego's not really that overdeveloped.

I just want people to be able to run an op that makes the best use of their time and effort. I've fucked up just about everything you can fuck up in this style of op and I'm always learning something new, so there's a lot of learning curve spinouts that folks can avoid if they are paying attention. Remember that I'm a stoned slacker who could fuck up an anvil with a rubber mallet, so if there's a fuckup to be found, I've surely found it.

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Originally Posted by firsttimegrowerr

Im acutally on page 85 of this thread trying to read every one. This is my first time ever growing so i just wanted to clear a few things up.

And i understand that diff nutes have different feeding sheduals but my question was can i just use the same ppm and will it work?

Nutes are really small potatoes in the general scheme of things. Far FAR too much is made of nutrients in hydroponic growing. I feel particularly sad for folks who have invested fat cash in a bunch of different magic sauces, most which are of totally dubious benefit. If I had to put figures on it, I'd say that 80-90% of a good grow is conditions in the op, not the nutes.

The vast majority of what you need to do is get the lighting, ventilation and watering all right. If you set your nute strength to 1400ppm, that's all you need to do, regardless of the brand of nutes. Try the very cheapest nutes you can buy. Often, that's some house-branded sauce, mixed up in the back room at Ye Olde Hydroe Shoppe. The downside is that small batch nutes are never as consistent as those from large, well-known nute makers- but they almost certainly will work.

DrGreenFinger · #**1850** 05-14-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cmak40

you must be lost with him then to because these answers are here to...look for your specific nute chart and foolow that chart. al uses canna nutrients which will probably have a diff feeding schedule. h2o2 is harmful for ORGANIC nutrients which have LIVING microorganisms and chemical nutrients do not have these propertise so they are not harmed by the peroxide...

al can you add a poll to see how many people are actually attempting this grow. i have followed this to a T since february and about 6 weeks from ACTUAL PERPETUAL growth. I HAVE READ ALL OF THIS THREAD AND COME BACK EVERYDAY TO FIND THE SAME QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. i would like to see how many people are actually using this info...

dont let it bother you, its a small thing to a giant.