Get a Harvest Every 2 Weeks

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Thans VV..

My grow room will be 3.5ft x 2.25ft the height is 7 ft (normal Ceiling height)

Taken in to account I would be doing 12 plants, on the rotaion, croping 3 plants every two weeks.

Should I use a 400 watt HID or a 600?

and for my clones, of which I would be taken 5-6. I would like to use compact Fluorescent , would a single 20 w do for this. or would i be better of useing say two 26w

regards

welshspencer

what would be a good nute solution for this?

wow this is an awesome set up! Def what I am going to model mine after, the 2 wk harvest is the best thing I've heard of. Mad props Al, couple questions though. Ur saying soon as the clones are ready, you put them right under a 12/12 1000w? And if I want to use soil and water myself this will not work? And I would rather do full plants instead of SoG. w/ light movers and maybe a lil LST pulling, is this possible? Ur thoughts are appreciated.

welshspencer said:

Thans VV..

My grow room will be 3.5ft x 2.25ft the height is 7 ft (normal Ceiling height)

Taken in to account I would be doing 12 plants, on the rotaion, croping 3 plants every two weeks.

Should I use a 400 watt HID or a 600?

and for my clones, of which I would be taken 5-6. I would like to use compact Fluorescent , would a single 20 w do for this. or would i be better of useing say two 26w

regards welshspencer

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So for about 8 sqft of growing space, a 400w would give you 50w/sqft, and a 600w would give you 75w/sqft. Both would work, but the 600 might be too much.

But there's another consideration. If you have 4 rows of plants of differing heights, the shortest ones will be too far away from the light. You might be better off using 2 250w lamps, if you can swing it. That will give you many more options for adjusting lamps.

For your rooting, I think that a CFL or 2 would work, but they might be too much for new shoots to handle, since the light is from 1 source. A tube is spread out, so I use those.

HTH

martyshoemaker said:

wow this is an awesome set up! Def what I am going to model mine after, the 2 wk harvest is the best thing I've heard of. Mad props Al, couple questions though.

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Its kinda like Al said, its logical, he does present it very well. The Two Week Harvest is dependent on the strain. That is, it depends on the strain you are growing. If it has an 8 week flowering time then follow this exactly and it will work.

Ur saying soon as the clones are ready, you put them right under a 12/12 1000w?

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yep he says that. He also has a thread about cloning where he describes how he accomplishes this. It does take some time, don't know how long yet, to develop mothers producing that size of clones. Potroast can tell you.

And if I want to use soil and water myself this will not work? And I would rather do full plants instead of SoG. w/ light movers and maybe a lil LST pulling, is this possible? Ur thoughts are appreciated.

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Now really. Yes you can do all that. SO what impressed you about his system? You like it and you are going to model after it, with a different strain, a different medium and use different growing methods?? Know what I mean Vern?? VV

Do any one know if Purple Widow is an 8week flowering strain. I germinated 3 purple widow seeds today. and putting them in Red Keg cups under two 40w cool white 4ft tubes today. so 80w alltogether.

how do u figure out the strain? i only get street names when i get my seeds. like nothern lights, mauwi wowwi, citris and the like

Those would be strains. You can always research thier flowering times by visiting a site that sells that kind of seeds. They will tell you how long it takes to flower in the description. THe best way if you don't live in cal. where I've heard you can buy quarenteed female clones, is to order seeds. Then you will be sure of what they are. VV

hmm, I head off & start using another cannabis forum- and my thread takes on a life of its own!

Let me polish up a few points gone errant in my absence.

You can use any strain you want in this 2wk rotation SoG, some will work better than others but anything will work. Indica dominant hybrids produce best on the 8wk cycle. I'm using Sweet Tooth #4, works well, could also use LUI, Skunk#1, etc. When I'm not in a hurry, I will let plants flower for 10wks, though I usually do harvest at 8wks.

I run 8-10 mother plants to supply 30 cuttings every 2 weeks. I pick the best 23 of those to be flowered. Leftovers become replacement mothers. Clones put in the 24/0 vegging area for the mothers take about 2-3 weeks before they are ready to start supplying cuttings. I lop the growing tip off clones which are to be used as mothers to force growth to divide. I discard mothers after about 4-6 passes of cuttings (2-3mos) and replace them with one of their progeny.

Potroast, you're a brilliant soul for looking after my orphaned thread. Cheers, mate.

OMFG Fuct's back..yay.

Thanks PotRoast

I did not take into account about the diffrent heights of the plants, so thanks for pointing that out.

Thanks for your advice..


Nice to see Al B Fuct back

he may visit, he ain't gonna live here. VV

Can you please! put up detailed pics of your grow room? Stand on a latter and take some air pics of the whole setup, it'll be fun I promise, kind of like you're flying!

QUESTION...

Why not do a 11 section grow? 1 section for each week? I know the mothers producing clones every week but you could take clones from later stages such as maybe wk 2 or 3?? if so then just eliminate mothers all together and do a more-so perpetrial grow? Then you would still get the same yeild just weekly. If you say 13-16oz every 2wk. lets asumme on average.. 1lb every 2 wk.. thats 2lb a month.. so why not turn that to 4lb a month? I know the light bill would be up there but its not that hard..

Would benefit alot more off that much weed.. also what quality weed does this produce? schwag? mid? or dank? or other?

Man that is a great idea, why don't you do that and let us know how it works. Eliminate the mothers and add 4 weeks to the grow cycle, I DON'T THINK SO. If you are suggesting this you don't understand how it works. Go look at his thread on cloning. VV

If my growroom is close to a bedroom window, do I need to have an intake and exaust fan? Or can I just open the window for hours at a time? With regular fans around the room. And yes the bedroom window cannot be seen due to tree coverage. Plus Izon will be working to get the smell out. With this will I need more CO2?

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Man that is a great idea, why don't you do that and let us know how it works. Eliminate the mothers and add 4 weeks to the grow cycle, I DON'T THINK SO. If you are suggesting this you don't understand how it works. Go look at his thread on cloning. VV

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I think your just misunderstanding me. let me explain better.

If a plant has to stay in a area for 2 weeks. Then why can't we divid that up into 2 areas for 1 week each? Doing this would alow you to progres each plant each week thus resulting in a harvest EVERY week. This only makes sence to me in the face that your harvest would be exactly the same just occuring twice as often. The same can be applied to using half as many areas. Instead of every 2 weeks it changes area we could do every 4 weeks and cause harvest to take twice as long. Get what I am saying? if not I can draw you some pics or something. I completly understand how this works tho.

Simple what I ment is:

Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct
I keep about 6-8 mothers and do about 30 cuttings every 2 weeks from them. I choose the best 20-23 clones to be put in the 4-tray flowering area.

Leftover clones become replacement mothers or are discarded. Mothers are replaced one by one, about every 4-8 weeks as needed.

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The leftovers becone REPLACMENT mothers. So your saying when he replaces a mother it takes time untill you can take clones? YES!

I think thats the part I missed. So keep the mothers. Sorry I wasn't clearly thinking that the mothers need to mature from cloens before you can take cloens from them. I was thinking why not use clones of clones during there 1st or 2nd week? 1 from each plant to continue the cycle. But I guess takign clones during those periods (during flowering) would slow production quite a bit?

if im understanding correctly, this is the problem...

if u use four 4'x4' tables and put them in a room with 2 on each side and a 1 foot space down the middle for u to walk u need a 8'x9' room, fine, many home owners can find that space. but when u double it to eight 4'x4' tables, u went from 64sqft to 128sqft, thats not something many people have access too. not to mention the amount of lights, pumps, and vents youd need for that room.

that would be my problem with it. i happen to have a building large enough for it, so running 8 tables that size is possible for me, but without that building and using a house, apartment, or even a garage, its just not realistic, wether it be space or electric bill, cause that much lights is gonna draw attention on the utility bill.

so possible, imo, yes.
feasible, 99% not likely

Altair

wow very nice technique. takes quite a bit of room and power but much worth the effort