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I’m getting ready to try my first indoor garden using a bubbleponic system that I made myself. I’ve ...
Need HOW TO help with changing water/nutes in Bubble System
I’m getting ready to try my first indoor garden using a bubbleponic system that I made myself. I’ve tried to give detailed thought to the entire cycle and I think I have MOST of the details worked out.
One thing I’m not certain of is the “HOW TO” change the water/nutes solution in a bubbleponic type bucket (also using ScROG).
I’m thinking the best way is to have a backup reservoir bucket that I can prepare the fresh water / nutes in and then just move the Lid (with plants in net pots) & Screen over to the new bucket (which will also have a water pump and air stones setup). Then I can remove the old bucket and rinse / sanitize it and have it ready for the same type of swap at the next change. Does this sound correct?
Also, I’ve been reading about how it’s key to not let any light get to the roots… so when should I do this? During a night cycle with a green bulb in a small lamp fixture so I can see? Seems it shouldn’t take more then a few minutes to do the swap…. So maybe I should do it during the light cycle and not worry about the roots getting a few minutes of light on them???. When do you all do this chore?
Lastly…. I’m thinking moving the lid with the screen and plants together could be tricky. How do you all do this?
Basically I’m asking you if you could provide me with details on exactly how & when you do this chore of changing the water / nutes in a bubble type system. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi FG, Glad to see ur still on the DWC wavelength for growing in, it's super easy!
You have, however, brought up the one thing that is my biggest pain in my current grow. My Scrog is about 2 weeks into 12/12, and I'm going to need to change my water here in the next few days, so here's what I'm thinking about doing. I have a cheap method and an expensive one, I'll be using the cheap method for this grow, but I'll explain the more expensive way I thought of.
Cheap method~ Siphoning~
While I was at petco getting new air pumps, I saw this fish tank siphon with a gravel head attachment, and knew this $5 tool would help me in my dilemma. The extra wide head really does a good job picking up the heavier particulates that sink to the bottom of your res. If you don't know how siphoning works google it, I'm not going to try and explain gravity to you...
Total cost = $5
More expensive method~ Ebb & flow pump
Sitting there waiting for the siphon to do it's thing, I thought of a faster way to do what I was already doing. This requires 2 sections of tubing, an ebb & flow pump, and a bucket that is the same size as your res. All that you have to do is plug the pump in, insert one end of the tubing into your res, attach it to the pump, insert the other section of tubing into your EMPTY bucket, and attach it to the second open hole on your ebb & flow pump, and now your solution should be pumping from your res into your empty bucket. Now just go empty your bucket, and fill it with clean water because you can mix your new solution in this bucket and pump it back into your res. No need to mess with lifting the lid, or exposing the roots to light, Just slide the air tube between the netpot and the lid, and try to make sure that when your sucking from your res, that your roots don't inadvertently gat sucked in too...
Total cost = around $60
Hope this was helpful, let me know if you want a photo of that siphon thing, I'll go take one next time im in the growroom...
Thanks for the post! I guess I'm really over-thinking the issue because I did think of siphoning .....
But then I was thinking I'd have to change the bucket itself to scrub out any slime or nutrient deposits that might grow / cling to the bucket.
I'm glad to hear this is not necessary because it does sound like a lot of work.
I love the ebb & flow pump idea!!! If you do get a picture of it I'd love to see it.
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Well, I have 4 plants in a Rubber made. I make up mix in a spare one and then swap the lid with the plants in it, from one to the other. There is no way I could take the plants out indoviduly, not without ripping the roots apart. It's anoying but pretty simple.
In actule fact the roots are only exposed to the light for a few seconds, I take this time to give them a good check for any signs of rot.
Hey I was reading up on this topic just today. While you fiddling with the water let them roots get exposed to real air for about an hour (Supposedly took a tomater plant 3.5 hrs to show stress. You give em an hour to breathe you doing good. I would do it in the dark that is how them periodic mister aeroponic things work anyway. How can anybody argue with a periodic upside down aereoponic/DWC combo method with a manifolds and spray heads? It's how the big boys do it. Whut mo can I say..or could be said at this point?
Originally Posted by hom36rown
Originally Posted by korvette1977
Hey Mr Green Jeans that is a smart thing to just swap them lids. I got an old joke about a funeral home where they just change heads on the bodies instead of putting Leroy into a White Tuxeudo ect..that just change heads with him and Rastass who is wearing the white tux. I like the concept. Smart thinning there Senor Queeks Draw.
Originally Posted by Mr Green Man
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Get the aquarium siphon and hook it up to a wet dry shop vac. You will empty the res in less than 3 seconds and get all of the left over particle matter! Just keep it away from the roots.
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You might want to consider adding a drain tube similar to the Hydrofarm one here Drain Level Tube | Plumbing Materials & Fittings=. You don't have to use the water level indicator or adjust it to your container's depth. However you will still have to deal with the particles and residue left in the bottom. No matter how close to the bottom you install the drain, it just isn't low enough.
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