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So I was doing some experiments with ways of lowering my waters pH since an ro system will not have a real impact on my pH as explained here IS PH OF RO PERMEATE REALLY LOWER THAN THE FEED-WATER PH?. It doesn't make much sense to me but it was what the guy at the local water store was tellin me about and I found it on the web so nobody could do a, oh yes it does. So back to my test, I added a small amount of vitamin c to my water with a pH of 8.1... Instantly a pH of 6.3 was produced. I am keeping my sample covered and stored for a bit (a day at least) to see how stable this is. Has anyone ever tried this Am I waisting my time What is the meaning of life seriously though will this actually work out, and is anyone really interested enough so for me to bother keeping this thread going
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Well 24 hours into this little experiment and the pH is still 6.3 not surprising though when I change the pH for my fish it usually works for a day or two due to the water "memory" and then slowly climbs. This is the worst part the waiting game, hopefully it will not be in vein. One other thing that I noticed is there are tiny tiny particles in the solution. I don't think that it will do anything since I am not turning it into mist and just using a flood and drain system.
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So maybe I'm getting a little bit over bearing on this whole deal but just an update 36 hours in still a steady pH. The only thing that may be a factor with this is how much the tds is messed up by this whole deal.
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Well, I think vitamin C is ascorbic acid, and any acid has a pH of less than 7.

The question is, will something in that vitamin C hurt your plant? Or maybe not kill her, but cause her to grow slowly, or not at all, or yield less than she could.

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I am a bit worried about everything that you have just written about but I'm not going to let it stop me. I mean the guys that came up with the ideas for hydroponics and aeroponics where probably thought to be nuts. I mean come on growing without soil?!?!?! But we all know much better than that. So back to my little mad scientist situation. The pH is still stable at 48 hours now the real test begins to see if it stays that way. If this solution works i will use it in my system and keep a journal about my findings.
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I found this little bit of info on the web that hopefully others will find interesting as well Vitamin C Is Essential For Plant Growth
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are you simply using vitamin c tablets, and disolving them in the water???? this is a very interesting experiment keep us posted .......
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So I was doing some experiments with ways of lowering my waters pH since an ro system will not have a real impact on my pH as explained here IS PH OF RO PERMEATE REALLY LOWER THAN THE FEED-WATER PH?. It doesn't make much sense to me but it was what the guy at the local water store was tellin me about and I found it on the web so nobody could do a, oh yes it does. So back to my test, I added a small amount of vitamin c to my water with a pH of 8.1... Instantly a pH of 6.3 was produced. I am keeping my sample covered and stored for a bit (a day at least) to see how stable this is. Has anyone ever tried this Am I waisting my time What is the meaning of life seriously though will this actually work out, and is anyone really interested enough so for me to bother keeping this thread going
Ok, so what you're dealing with is a common issue for aquarists and it's called alkalinity. Alkalinity refers to the water's ability to resist shift in pH, and you should expect a bounce. What I used to do for my South American fishes was filter through peat moss. Aquarists don't like the brownish color water created, but the fish LOVE it, and it's a safe way of changing the buffering capacity of the water. Dropping a vitamin C pill in the water isn't going to do what you want it to do. Vinegar would be one way, but again, you're going to have bounce especially if the water is very hard (also measured as alkalinity, and there are a couple of ways this is measured). CO2 content (carbon dioxide) is not the only measure of or means by which to manipulate pH (it is used to lower, or acidify).

If you look to the aquarium world you will find an amazing amount of information on how to manipulate water parameters.

RO water, reverse osmosis, usually removes a good amount of the mineral content of water and the only way I know of to get more pure is to go with distilled water. Both tend have very low alkalinity (buffering or pH shift resistance). Leaving your test sample for a day does absolutely NOTHING, the reagent has been used up and that's it. Test again to see true results.
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