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    I take ppm in flower to the point where as water level drops, ppm and ph stay the same. If ppm rises, I add water only until I'm slightly under the previous target ppm I made. I wait for water level to go down again and if ppm is lower, I add more water and make a new higher target ppm. I keep that up until everything stabilizes.

    Would I get more potent bud if I take ppm to the just before the point of nute burn? I hear conflicting advice. Some say too much ppm will stunt growth and reduce yield. So what I do is make the plants happy.

    So does my way, or does just to the brink of nute burn give the most yield and potent bud?
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    Potency is a function of genetics. How you grow it and nutes and lights etc etc, determine yiled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illegal Smile View Post
    Potency is a function of genetics. How you grow it and nutes and lights etc etc, determine yiled.
    Not true. Potency potential is the nature part. Reaching that potential is the nurture part. My question is if you got a 22% potential strain, which method closer reaches that potential?

    Yeild is also genetically limited. Both potency and yeild are more greatly determined by grower knowledge. A master grower can grow better ditch weed than most newbs can grow a cannabis cup winner.
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    IMO these are the types of things that are out of reach for any grow that is not in a research facility. You're likely going to get completely different answers based on personal experiences, but I don't believe any of them will have the basic credentials to be considered conclusive for something like this. First, assuming that a perfect side-by-side with clones from the same mother in the same grow environment is done, it takes substantial skill and knowledge to begin testing this stuff. Using any type of pre-made nutes pretty much removes the ability to truly max out individual micro and macro nutrient availability to the plant, or even provide the optimal amounts of each regardless. And I don't know many growers making their own nutrients for each specific pheno; making the perfect ratio again requires testing capabilities beyond most any set-up that isn't a lab.

    Those types of obstacles aside, I think that if you can truly dial it in with proper application and testing procedures, 'maxing out' nutrient levels based on their individual uptake levels then timing those ratios to change precisely throughout the life cycle of the plant will ultimately optimize the plant's ability to perform its functions, whether it's generative or vegetative.

    But I think in real-world practice, trying to max out nute levels leads to more problems than improvements because while one micro(or macro) is reaching toxicity level, others will be far from maxed out, obviously leading to long-term health problems, let alone allowing the plant to reach full potential. So for non-funded growers in anything besides a lab, focusing on optimal health at a 'safer' nutrient concentration will usually yield better results than focusing on maxing out ppm.

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    Nutrients and pH affect the health of the plant, which in turn affects yield.

    Potency, on the other hand, is not influenced by nutrients, because it is genetic.


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    growing poor plants will affect potency, proper feeding will increase yield and give higher potency, feeding the plants to its maximum potential makes it grow to its maximum but every plant has a breaking point to itself where it starts to get overfed, you need to determine this point for your plant. overfeeding also decreases yield, potency and taste.

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    One way I got really high potency was to keep the temperature of my sativa at 88F and 28%RH during flower. The trichomes just made it glisten. The only problem is the stuff foxtailed like mad. The high was trippy as hell though. It was amazing. But it looked like swag
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    Quote Originally Posted by zem View Post
    growing poor plants will affect potency, proper feeding will increase yield and give higher potency, feeding the plants to its maximum potential makes it grow to its maximum but every plant has a breaking point to itself where it starts to get overfed, you need to determine this point for your plant. overfeeding also decreases yield, potency and taste.
    That's what I thought. When I over fed my first time with Blue Dream, I forced all the indica traits. It was super dense, but lacked trichomes. The plant didn't grow much. All I got was 24 grams. The high was more indica stoney and giggly rather than the trippy and tingly sativa high. I usually get over 60 g and sometimes over 100 g per plant.
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    strange nobody said anything about cureing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANC View Post
    strange nobody said anything about cureing.
    I would love to hear how curing affects bud.
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