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First ebb and flow (p wreck/sour kush WIP diary)

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    Default First ebb and flow (p wreck/sour kush WIP diary)

    Hey guys

    Long time smoker, first time grower.
    Figure I might ask you guys for some advice to keep my babies big and healthy, and also turn this thread into a grow diary when I get myself a camera haha

    So atm I've got 12 plants in a 4x2 tray, they're in 4x4 rockwool cubes with a little shaved off the bottom (tray was a bit shallow).
    Used some seeds from herbies, they were great, all sprouted well except for one, and after a couple days they were healthy enough to go under the HID (400w sylvania MH @ 18inches).
    Put them in initially with a nute solution of 0.2EC (my water is 0.0 natural) and a ml or two of superthrive into a 30ltr res

    After a 3-4 days I upped the EC to 0.8 based on a feed chart from my local hydro store, then yesterday upped that again to 1.2 and gave another 3-4ml of superthrive. Res is losing about 2ltr of water each day and I'm topping up and keeping the PH at 5.8

    Anyway, all plants have been growing pretty well, nice first set of leaves, second set have started on all plans and third set of leaves have just started showing on a couple, they're about an inch and a half high atm.
    Now I've fed them twice with the 1.2EC solution, and I noticed crinkled leaves as well as a few tiny brown holes on one plant (pinprick size), with another plant showing similar (but mild) crinkling and slightly yellowed tips. All other plants appear to be thriving.
    Figured this may have been overfert, so I've dropped the EC back to 0.8 and leeched it, have I done the right thing? Should I be dropping the EC further still? These guys are only 9 days old heh

    I'll try and get you guys some pics tomorow, hopefully they will shed some light.

    Thanks in advance guys




    Oh, and the strains I've put down are purple wreck, sour kush, sensi star black label, AK48, super skunk, and a MYSTERY SEED (she's the one that's not looking so good though)

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    bump, pics toinght
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    ya 1.2 sounds high for seedlings.
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    Hey Taurich, it sounds like some slight nute burn to me. Try not using any nutrient for the first 2 weeks when growing seeds. After that you should start at 1/2 or even 1/4 strength then slowly increase the concentration until you get a feel for what your plants can handle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayJammer View Post
    Hey Taurich, it sounds like some slight nute burn to me. Try not using any nutrient for the first 2 weeks when growing seeds. After that you should start at 1/2 or even 1/4 strength then slowly increase the concentration until you get a feel for what your plants can handle.
    ^ agreeeeeeeeed
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    Hey wow sorry for such a late update, I've been pretty busy lately and have been neglecting to take regular pics

    Anyway, Mr Crinkles - as it became known - was a sort of canary in the mine for the rest of the plants. Seemed to be the most susceptible to overfert so she got sacrificed in the name of pushing the limits of all the other plants. Kept her for a couple weeks until was about 5-6 inches high, then pulled her out in case she became diseased from the fert damage and ruined the crop.

    Everything is pumping along quite nicely, some of the lower leaves have some slightly burnt fringes and a dead dry section of leaf or two, but I'm pretty pretty confident I'm just riding the edge of what the plants can handle because they are absolutely thriving.

    Apart from that not too much to report, had one of the sour kush go a bit weird a few days after I started the thread. The main stem of it just terminated in a branch of it's own accord. It got to be about 2.5 inches high, and then decided to just grow a single leaf out of the top stem instead of a pair of shoots. There was no sign of new shoot growth for like 4-5 days and it was looking very wilted and sad, then a weird lump appeared on the side of it, and in the space of a couple days that lump had unfurled into about 4 branches each with a pair of leaves/shoots on them, that's become the new main stem. Seems to be as healthy as the rest now but where the lump occured there's a huge scar, looks like I've grafted it on there
    Oh and the sensi star we put down were males, all other seem to be fem. We're putting them into 12/12 in 2-3 days, debating whether to use bushmaster atm. We have some on hand and the plants are about 14-15 inches atm, dreading the stretch. Some advice here would be great

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    These pics are from today. There's a shot of the purple wreck outside of the box there, we've taken a lot of clones off her but she's recovering nicely.
    Last two pics are my attempts at a close up of the sour kush weirdness, the smallest branch sticking out the top of that lump thing used to be the main stem ^^
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    nice plants, take care not to overcrowd your room

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    Quote Originally Posted by zem View Post
    nice plants, take care not to overcrowd your room
    Yeh it's getting big time crowded in there already.
    We were actually due to begin 12/12 two/three days ago, but financial constraints have pushed back purchase of our 1m2 flower tent. This veg box we're using atm is just under half that area

    Protip: Prepare things in advance >_<

    Oh and thanks, I'm pretty happy with how they're doing, first time I've seen hydro in action and it's just blown me away.

    Anyone got any tips on how I can improve my yield in SOG? How does SOG compare to ScrOG?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurich View Post
    Yeh it's getting big time crowded in there already.
    We were actually due to begin 12/12 two/three days ago, but financial constraints have pushed back purchase of our 1m2 flower tent. This veg box we're using atm is just under half that area

    Protip: Prepare things in advance >_<

    Oh and thanks, I'm pretty happy with how they're doing, first time I've seen hydro in action and it's just blown me away.

    Anyone got any tips on how I can improve my yield in SOG? How does SOG compare to ScrOG?
    Taurich, looking good so far man.

    I would definitely suggest adding a screen to your setup. It will keep your canopy low and even once you hit the stretch in flowering. Also, it will allow more light to penetrate and fatten up those lower buds, not just the top one like a SOG. I think this would be a great way to increase your yield drastically. (just my opinion)

    About Bushmaster... It is like a power tool for plants, a very potent vertical growth inhibitor. Be careful with it. Don't use more than 1/4 mL per Gallon of water and i would suggest using it as a foliar spray a couple days after switching to 12/12. You will notice that your plants stop growing up but still continue to grow outward. This can be very useful when trying to control stretch during flower.
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