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    Default ++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

    So Im starting this thread to target easy ways to build, run and manage these systems in hydro!
    And to better help the riu community with solid answers to issues as best i can answer. Systems
    I would like to target are:
    1) CAP ebb&grow
    2) titan flow&grow
    3) standard flood tables
    4) any form of top drip recycle

    Discusions about medium whats best and whats not!
    Nute lines and ph management. Water! Whats good
    And whats not!

    heres a bunch of links to RIU grows and grow room setups

    Grow Room Floorplans. Here to help.
    there is no better person than phillip to configure a grow room than him dudes got his shit down!


    A Newb Grow Journal
    nuglets grow!


    here we grow again!!!...ebb & grow
    drgreentm grow!


    DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes
    heisinbergs tea thread to curing slime and pythium!


    The second round with the UnderCurrent, The $6,500 expearment gets better
    woods UC grow for those looking into undercurrent


    http://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-...ow-virgin.html
    bigz hydro grow!


    Sour diesel grow
    niners grow!


    Blue Dream in Coco. 12x6, 2x1000 HPS
    insanes coco passive hydro grow!


    http://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-...alth-grow.html
    bigstuff777 ebb&flow grow!


    For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users
    for those looking for a ton of ebb&grow info look to this thread to!


    4x4 Ebb n Flow White Russian SoG Style
    phuzy grow!


    White Russian's MMJ grow
    cerberus titan setup!
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    Question on ph management...

    I have recently read that you can use pure 33% sulfuric acid from auto zone to lower ph.

    Well I tried it . It works it's safe and for the price of 1 u.s. Gallon of ph down is under 5$.

    Only negative aide effect? I can't read the tds. My ppm meter goes CRAZY!.

    Any suggestions?

    Oh yeah i am putting this stuff right into my 18 gallon resivior...
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    thanks for putting the link HR...Glad to see you're still going to be here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumble View Post
    thanks for putting the link HR...Glad to see you're still going to be here.
    Yah fumble im not going anywhere! Taking a forced brake due to a loss of everything i had cause of stupid power going
    Out! And killing my girls saved the orange cush clone thank god!
    Quote Originally Posted by hazey grapes View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valron View Post
    Question on ph management...

    I have recently read that you can use pure 33% sulfuric acid from auto zone to lower ph.

    Well I tried it . It works it's safe and for the price of 1 u.s. Gallon of ph down is under 5$.

    Only negative aide effect? I can't read the tds. My ppm meter goes CRAZY!.

    Any suggestions?

    Oh yeah i am putting this stuff right into my 18 gallon resivior...
    You can use sulfuric acid although i wouldnt, looking for a salution to it messing with tds meter
    Well i honestly dont have a clue, il look into it and get back to you
    Quote Originally Posted by hazey grapes View Post
    hog's breath sounds stinky. i get easily nauseated. durban poison gives me dry heaves. i still don;t get how anyone could actually LIKE diesels when the flavor is an abomination to me no matter how nice the buzz is

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    cap ebb and grow! Check ur floats! to check pop float off mount and shake it. If it rattles its bad and can cause and flood in the near future! like last night in my case! Call r and m supply and they will replace them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydro daze View Post
    cap ebb and grow! Check ur floats! to check pop float off mount and shake it. If it rattles its bad and can cause and flood in the near future! like last night in my case! Call r and m supply and they will replace them!
    Good shit hydro daze its never happened to me but good to check on! Better to be pro-active!
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    I would like to start off focusing on root rot and slime thats common in the ebb/grow systems!
    Root rot! Its seems to take charge in week 3 of bloom with the exsposive amounts of root filling
    The buckets, cap has x2 versoins of buckets one is a flat bottom and the other is a raised style
    With a slight angle to help draining! Does either one work not really, water still remains in the
    Bucket in between floods and sits with 0 air and under the heat of your lamp. No air = stagnent
    Water = in root rot! And water siting under lights in black tubing is like a heater increasing temps
    In one case i did a test where my chiller was keeping a good 62 to 63f in the res! And i installed
    A water proof temp gauge in the main line that feeds the buckets. My floods are spaced 4 hours
    Apart and half way through to the next flood my inline water temp was 78! I couldnt believe it lol
    So high temps = brown slime or pythium! This all took place with a bad ass chiller in place. Everytime
    It cycled a flood it would bring back bactiria to the res and thus causing a revolving cycle of shit!
    To eliminate a good amount of this high temps i replaced my black lines with 3/4 white pvc and put
    Foam on the lines, the kind you snap on to help with frozen water pipes. White pvc and no direct
    Light on the line got it down to 65 to 66f from 78 in doing so it almost elininated slime and made
    My chiller run half as much. Back to root rot! Even though cap raised there buckets raising it a1in to
    2inchs more is a win all to geting them to drain 100% and elininating rot. Keep in mind lots of air in
    The res is key to replacing fresh clean water full of air to your plants roots! When you raisem up dont
    Raise the controll box, i know by doing this you lower the flood level! Its ok your plant will love you
    For it!
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    Il get some pics up of the layout soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazey grapes View Post
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    I can run up to a 80 degree rez using tables. Seems they are much less prone to rot sitting in pots rather than DWC tubs. But for those in DWC with slime issues check out Heisenbergs Tea... Basically Earthworth Castings soaked in aerated water with a bit of Auqa Shield and a Myco product like great white or w/e u have. After 48 hours of brewing add roughly 2 cups to each 5 gal bucket to help combat the slime. I assume this tea would also work great in the Ebb&Grow tho I've never tried it.

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