i feel ya on that one. diy is really the only way to grow now because anything premade is was over priced. i better understand what you meant about spending 20 in nutes because i did the same thing when i was growing in peat. man nutes are wayy easier to afford when growing in soil/soiless. but i gotta make up 55gal of nutrient solution every week, so either way im still screwed because i run through nutes reall quick. the hardest part about all of this is i was on a schedule with botanicare, i knew how much to expect in yield every grow... and now im scrambling around trying to find a nute program that my plants like and that fits my schedule.