It's A Fuct World

Originally Posted by NoOne

Not to be mean but google or a search on here would have netted you an answer. I didn't explain it on purpose cause people love to respond with its crazy etc. 12/1 is simple, 12 hours of light on 5.5 hours of light off 1 hour light on and 5.5 hours of light off. This gives you nearly the least amount of hours to have your lights on in a given day and keep the plant vegetating.

Thanks for clarifying, it would have been just as easy without sounding like a douche. Good luck with the method and enjoy the forum.

I would love to hear if 12/1 works. I grow chem hybrids so I am a little hesitant to try it.

Yo Al, does all the information you have given apply to soil growing?

Does unsulfered molasses make a difference if you added it to soil?

Does chlorinated water in the US cause harm when you smoke your final product?

Originally Posted by NoOne

Holy Fuct, this thread is still going a year later. Al I'm back living in Arizona and enjoying my states medical MJ laws. Two things that really sucks about Arizona though is the super hot summers and the price gouging my electric company does. As such my question is, what is your opinion on the 12/1 light cycle for vegetative growth? Does it over stress the plant? If you have tried this method, did you notice a larger node spacing? Seems to me the cost saving in not running my ac or lights for a few hours might be worth trying this method even if i have to use some more light for supplemental purposes to stop node stretching. Let me know what you think. Also to anyone else that reads this please try to save the "this method is crazy" comments etc, I have seen this method discussed in year one horticulture books for 10+ years and its been employed by the commercial flower company's for years. So please save your breath and time on trying to bash this grow technique. However if you have real life experience and know about real life results in regards to power savings, plant stress or node length numbers then please feel free to reply. Thank you, NoOne

I do not recommend monkeying around with photoperiods- not for flowering plants and especially not for mother plants.

Clones perform best in SoG when they come from thick-stemmed vigorous mothers. You get that with 18/6 or 24/0 lighting.

Weird photoperiods tend to produce hermaphrodism in flowering plants and may induce flowering in vegging mums. This is particularly bad rice. Once a mum has begun flowering, clones taken from it will be slow to root. The cure is to re-veg a mum that has begun to flower under 18/6 or 24/0 light for about 4-6 weeks, cutting back severely every 2 weeks.

I really wish people would stop trying to re-invent the wheel. If you're growing dope, you're doing it to get dope. Use methods known to work. Trying to use less mains power is admirable but playing with photoperiods is a false economy.

Originally Posted by tyler.durden

Hey, Al! So you sprung for new ballasts, huh? Did you go digital or stay with magnetic?

Stayed with magnetic. Magnetics use about 5% more AC input power than an electronic or digital ballast, due to eddy current losses in the ballast's iron core. However, they're 1/4-1/3 the price of an electronic ballast and well known for no-brainer reliability. Honestly, there's just 3 components in a magnetic ballast and all of them are more durable than a semiconductor junction. Having a warranty is nice- never having a ballast quit unexpectedly is nicer.

Originally Posted by beginner.legal.growop

Yo Al, does all the information you have given apply to soil growing?

Does unsulfered molasses make a difference if you added it to soil?

Does chlorinated water in the US cause harm when you smoke your final product?

Moleasses may have some use in organic soil culture, but from the agricultural science papers I've seen on it so far, it's certainly not magic. Molasses have no purpose in hydroponics.

Chlorinated water is fine for drinking and growing plants. Municipal water treatment chlorination alone will keep a tank of nutrient solution pathogen free for about 3 days. Use care with non-expert & conspiracy-mongering opinions of chlorination & fluoridation.

It's nice to have a pound just sittin' around.

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...isn't it though?


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I wouldn't know as it is illegal for me to possess such quantities under my state's medical laws

Great looking fruits guys, its nice to see Al still has a camera! Looks like TF said to hell with using latex gloves, I'll just use these same ones whenever I trim! lol

Originally Posted by Shwagbag

I wouldn't know as it is illegal for me to possess such quantities under my state's medical laws

Great looking fruits guys, its nice to see Al still has a camera! Looks like TF said to hell with using latex gloves, I'll just use these same ones whenever I trim! lol

It's nice that some localities have medical schemes in place, I maintain that if you ever have cause to fear LEO counting your plants or weighing your stash, your security culture needs a revisit.

I don't tend to take too many pix because a perpetual op always looks pretty much the same. But, if it makes you feel better, here's tray 4 with plants in week 6.

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