For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

**hellraizer30** · 08-05-2011, 10:05 PM

im starting to think so to im going to have my buddy shut off his and see.

**jdmcwestevo** · 08-05-2011, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by hellraizer30

im starting to think so to im going to have my buddy shut off his and see.

that is the best idea. i am talking from experience i figured that an airstone would be bitchen to get more DO in the water. it didnt make a difference in growth, and my root growth was slowed i asked my friend who like i said is a 3rd generation grower he explained how the airstone and the super oxygenated water was killing off my beenys from root excellerator and great white so that is why my roots were suffering. if you dont use bennys then the airstone is fine and probably beneficial depending on your setup. if you do use bennys then you need to pick one or the other otherwise you are wasting your money

**dbkick** · 08-05-2011, 11:44 PM

the only thing I've read is to not feed the bennies in res, thats where the foam may come from.

**jdmcwestevo** · 08-05-2011, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by dbkick

the only thing I've read is to not feed the bennies in res, thats where the foam may come from.

i have never experienced this. i add my beenies and my sweeteners partially to feed them mainly because i feel it makes a very big difference in the aroma and flavor of my bud. never had foam issue can we see pictures lol im curious as to what this looks like im picturing like a shaken up soda opening and foaming everywhere or like baking soda and vinegar

**dbkick** · 08-05-2011, 11:50 PM

beneficial bacteria are aerobic and without o2 will die, bad bacteria are anaerobic I'll always run an airstone in res.

**jdmcwestevo** · 08-05-2011, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by dbkick

beneficial bacteria are aerobic and without o2 will die, bad bacteria in anaerobic I'll always run an airstone in res.

like i said i have nothing to back it up except for my own experience and hearing this from very experienced growers with 20 years experience

**dbkick** · 08-05-2011, 11:52 PM

pardon my typos I'm quite intoxicated, don't rule out misinformation either.

**hellraizer30** · 08-05-2011, 11:57 PM

well the AN rep says no air

**dbkick** · 08-06-2011, 12:03 AM

they should know, they make the big bux, all I know is all I've heard is you don't feed them in the res

**med4u** · 08-06-2011, 06:43 AM

jus curious,are you guys using organics?if so why not go chem and say bye-bye to all negative issues in hydro?,from what i understand organics are more akind to soil grows where chems are designed for hydro ie nutrients are available for immediate uptake vs. organics need to be broke down before they can be utilized,i started in hydro with organics and ran into much of the same probs that i am reading about ie ph probs,slime,brown crap,pyth,need for bb's.....it was like going to war with the whole grow! since then i went chem and have had 0 issues with any aspect of growing,so clean and easy,i have only 3 grows with the chems,but each one was easy and bountiful with not one issue,like i said jus curious,please enlighten me