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essentially, its 3 dimensional nft.. and 2 dimansional nft is well proven to do a good job.

A 1mm x 1mm hole is like a barn door to a 50 micron droplet, upto 400 could fit through it in one go.

Originally Posted by Atomizer

You could always compost the roots and pick out the bioballs when its rotted down. Pity the bioballs don`t come in stainless thenyou could incinerate the rootball to get them back.

The plastic is able to easily handle treatment wth acids or bases or any oxidizer. ie throw in a perforated bucket and put this bucket in a strong solution of of base such as a toilet bowl cleaner that contains hodroxides such as sodium hydroxide or potasium hydroxide and soak, pull out perforated bucket then rinse. Now out bucket in a bucket with a strong solution of an acid like muriatic acid and soak. Pull out and rinse.

Or oxidize the roots with a strong chlorine solution. But as the roots are organic there will be a strong release of ammonia gas so do this outside. This will cause putrefication of the roots and they will literally fall apart.

well fatman...

im sitting here trying to figure out the simplest system for quick turn arounds.

I know that hp aero makes a plant grow the fastest...

but, when i realize i can make infinite clones pretty much... quantity of plants can overcome one super large plant i think.

This whole bio ball thing got my brain going, and i just made heaths spiral tube obsolete i think...


instead of a tube spiraling...

just make a perfect ring.

And then another ring of pipe down a foot or so from it.

Then connect all the perfect rings with a vertical pipe that comes straight down to the res.

Give each ring a slight slight tilt so that the vertical pipe is at the lowest point of the ring.

Put the plant sites all around each ring.

Put a light bulb in the middle of the rings.


Now... take it one step further... heaths setup is a bitch to get in and out of im sure...

So now get rid of the ring and just do a C... or a ring with a small gap in it.

Put 2 endcaps, one on each end of the C.

Put the vertical pipe down the middle of the c's and give the c's a tilt.

Now... bioballs...


instead of having deep water inside the pipe like heath does...

all one would have to do is put sprayers.. or better yet... a lazer cut aeration hose in each ring of pipe.. and lay it up on top of the bioballs.

Then put it on a timer on off, or do a constant trickle like they do over at thcfarmer.com with the doubleD setup.

IF there were large enough pipes... one could do this with HP aero. At that point i think i would just make the pipes vertical pilars, and have a horizontal line at the bottom of the pilars connection them all, and a bit of dwc at the bottom of each pilar... and have 4 or 5 plants up a pilar... and then just add more pilars to the circle if the plants are too close to the light, or subtract pilars from the circle if the plants are too far away.

If i was HP this si the way id go...

But the perfect large diameter pipe is yet to be discovered.

However, since its vertical, one could use that black ribbed plastic pipe that they put under the ground...

Or you can go with those bin totes that stack, that they sell at home depot now.

The totes would pobably be better.

Technically, one could fill those totes from top to bottom, and cut the bottoms out so they make a pilar.... and fill those with bioballs, and jsut have a lazer cut aeration line spiral its way down through the balls.. or maybe youd only need to drip from the very top, and it would work its way down evenly across all the balls, who knows.

I know hp aero is the best... but im still exploring all options as far as simplicity and cost are concerened

Originally Posted by PetFlora

I am using 18G totes (15" deep). I am looking for cylinders that can be used vertically, like pilars. No dead spots.

My roots grew so damn fast that I had to get additional totes and stack them, cutting way tops and bottoms. I now have 30" depth, and some roots have gathered on the bottom.

I think the problem comes from waiting too long to flip. I waited until all plants were 12". At 72 days the plants are 3ft tall, and that after being pinched.

Next time I will flip at 6". Hopefully, the plants will respond and stop making gorw roots and concentrate on bloom roots , which are new and shorter.

Time will tell

Here is what you want...

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053

they stack bottom to top, and leave potential plant sites to be cut out of the diagonal flap.

The middle of the lid can be cut out, and the bottom on the next one, and THEY DONT LEAK!

you can stack these infinitely high...

They come in a 4 pack, or buy them for 9.99 at home depot one at a time.

If a person put a sprayer in the back wall f each of these, or maybe every other one... i think its the future of hp aero and vertical growing.

Even if a person found a large vertical tube, you still have the plant site issue to deal with... These tubs make it a piece of cake to drill a hole in the diagonal flap and put in a netpot.

@ Petflora. Your reply makes no sense.

A mathematical statement:
A 1mm x 1mm hole is like a barn door to a 50 micron droplet, upto 400 could fit through it in one go.

Originally Posted by PetFlora

Wrong. As soon as the fog hits the bottom, it combines into ever larger droplets which combine into a liquid.

Fog, gravity and coalescence have absolutely nothing to do with the theoretical number of 50 micron droplets that will fit into a 1mm x 1mm area

Originally Posted by PetFlora

I am using 18G totes (15" deep). I am looking for cylinders that can be used vertically, like pilars. No dead spots.

My roots grew so damn fast that I had to get additional totes and stack them, cutting way tops and bottoms. I now have 30" depth, and some roots have gathered on the bottom.

I think the problem comes from waiting too long to flip. I waited until all plants were 12". At 72 days the plants are 3ft tall, and that after being pinched.

Next time I will flip at 6". Hopefully, the plants will respond and stop making gorw roots and concentrate on bloom roots , which are new and shorter.

Time will tell

if you look back a couple pages you can see my 6 and 12 day old roots. these roots are the same as the 8 week old roots from last round in all aspects. ive seen no difference beween grow roots and bloom roots. theres nothing to support that idea that im aware of.

i also dont have any live bacteria colonizing the root system cause i run a sterile root zone so i dont think there is any bacteria feeding the roots. that happens in soil and organic hydro systems. H2o kills the bacteria.

my roots also grow along the bottom of the chamber and the walls and the ceiling of the chamber. i dont see much if any difference between the roots on the floor, walls or ceiling. there is never enough water to drench the floor roots so they develop in a similar fashion to the rest.

i could run the system where by almost no droplets would form anywhere including the roots but at this time im trying to encourage the roots to fill the bottom of the chamber before heading up the walls and ceiling and slightly overmisting seems to keep them from developing to much fluff. ill save that for later if possible.

Glad you could stop by but here we make the info up as we go and dont rely on the info contained in the TAG thread as the absolute truth. some of it may indeed be true but ive found alot of stuff from there that doesnt correlate to real world examination.

Originally Posted by PetFlora

I am using 18G totes (15" deep). I am looking for cylinders that can be used vertically, like pilars. No dead spots.

My roots grew so damn fast that I had to get additional totes and stack them, cutting way tops and bottoms. I now have 30" depth, and some roots have gathered on the bottom.

I think the problem comes from waiting too long to flip. I waited until all plants were 12". At 72 days the plants are 3ft tall, and that after being pinched.

Next time I will flip at 6". Hopefully, the plants will respond and stop making gorw roots and concentrate on bloom roots , which are new and shorter.

Time will tell

If you want cylinders that size, cut down 55g plastic drums to the depth you need. I think that's the way I'm headed next.