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Old 08-12-2009, 02:51 PM
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Dry the grow-micro-bloom from advanced. Its cheaper and its formulated specifically for MJ. GH has been formulated for vegitables and tomatoes and shit.
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Dry the grow-micro-bloom from advanced. Its cheaper and its formulated specifically for MJ. GH has been formulated for vegitables and tomatoes and shit.
Yea its pretty much all the same
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I have a Q... found this store below in my area and it looks decent but i have a few questions... http://www.wormsway.com/products.asp...cat=FERTH&AC=1 I would like to setup a bubbleponics (14 gal or 10gal) sys but what nuts would I need and how much? For example I see the floragro 3pack pint and qt bottles for sale but how long does that last 1,2 or even 3 grows? Are those 3 technically what I would need from veg to flower(may get some seaweed for flower). Are there prices good because I never bought befor so i dont know? Are all nuts a three part system then you get the add on ie..seaweed? I want to go in the store and semi know what's going on.... sorry if im in the wrong place not meaning to jack
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I was leaning towards the Bontanicare line of ferts. Have you or anyone reading used their "base" nutes with good success. And yea I'm following with the lucas formula with my Flora line GH nutes. Wonder if I should rename this post to: What additives should I buy with my GH nutes? I want a carbo booster and a good root booster. I think I would do well with that added to my rouster. But like I said dont know what to get yet. Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks.
I have never used any exotic supplements ever, nor have I ever seen proof that they do anything. My friend uses Banana Manna and swears that it makes his buds grow more crystals, but Ive never seen any study that proves smashed up bananas (banana manna) grow crystals on your buds. In my view, he got suckered into paying 50$ for three or four liquified smashed up bananas. I grew the same strain with far better results than he got, using just the Lucas Formula (just as many, or more, crystals). People toss this type of expensive crap into their grow then attribute the genetic characteristics of their strain to the exotic supplement. Until I see scientific proof that they actually work (and none exists), Im steering far away from exotic supplements and other snake oil.

Ive seen a video of a comparison grow using advanced nutes vs other brands. The problem with this video is that it is PRODUCED BY ADVANCED NUTRIENTS! Ive never seen a comparison grow done by a neutral party.

This winter I will be doing a comparison grow between AN and GH. Im splitting my grow into two rooms, one with 7 plants and one with 8. There is a hydro shop by my house that makes a clone of GH flora series and sells it for 15$ a gallon and it is all I have ever used. Until my comparison grow, Im sticking with the GH clone which is getting me huge yields cheaply.

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Here's a great site, http://aapfco.org/metals.htm you can look up the metal content of your nutes. There is three sites Cali, Wash St. and Oregon. Some very interesting stuff.
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need some help

I just recieved my GH flora micro ,grow & bloom first time using this products . since i use powder fertz .

I have my plant at 27 days flowering C99 F1 .
can someone give me some advice how to use this ferts ? Im a bit confused . my reservoir has 11 gallons

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Old 08-13-2009, 09:15 PM
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I have never used any exotic supplements ever, nor have I ever seen proof that they do anything. My friend uses Banana Manna and swears that it makes his buds grow more crystals, but Ive never seen any study that proves smashed up bananas (banana manna) grow crystals on your buds. In my view, he got suckered into paying 50$ for three or four liquified smashed up bananas. I grew the same strain with far better results than he got, using just the Lucas Formula (just as many, or more, crystals). People toss this type of expensive crap into their grow then attribute the genetic characteristics of their strain to the exotic supplement. Until I see scientific proof that they actually work (and none exists), Im steering far away from exotic supplements and other snake oil.

Ive seen a video of a comparison grow using advanced nutes vs other brands. The problem with this video is that it is PRODUCED BY ADVANCED NUTRIENTS! Ive never seen a comparison grow done by a neutral party.

This winter I will be doing a comparison grow between AN and GH. Im splitting my grow into two rooms, one with 7 plants and one with 8. There is a hydro shop by my house that makes a clone of GH flora series and sells it for 15$ a gallon and it is all I have ever used. Until my comparison grow, Im sticking with the GH clone which is getting me huge yields cheaply.
I've never been one to be coned by a snake oil salesmen or pitch. And while I did mention additives, I mentioned 2 that would make sense to me that would be beneficial and work, a good root booster and a carb booster.

While I understand that a plant is going to do its thing, uptake nutrients and only as much as it needs. I also know that there is always room for improvement when it comes to quality in ingredients. If that wasn't the case then there would be no point to growing organically, yet tons of users on RIU swear that their bud smokes better, sweeter and is all around tastier than bud grown on chemical ferterlizers.

As for additives, black strap molassis is natures carbo-load additive, only I am growing hydroponicly and you cant add that stuff to your res, yet I have seen some improvements when using the stuff correctly in soil.

You cant tell me that an nute deriving their phospherous from a safe, naturally balanced source isn't going to be better than one derived from some chemical reaction in a lab.

I'm not trying to "diss" GH users or GH nutes, either I got a shitty batch of nutes or this stuff isnt great for Cannabis.

I love my girls and I want to give them the best I can afford so long as they can benefit from it, if it makes not difference then I dont want to spend the time and money.

I like your idea of simutanious side by side grows comparing nutes, I plan to do the same when I have the space, which isnt now. But when you do, pm me and good luck with it, would love to follow along and see what comes from it.

Anyone knows a good cheap (and safe for plants) carb? Would love to get some feedback from my rant. Thanks everyone will be rep+ soon!
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:27 PM
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need some help

I just recieved my GH flora micro ,grow & bloom first time using this products . since i use powder fertz .

I have my plant at 27 days flowering C99 F1 .
can someone give me some advice how to use this ferts ? Im a bit confused . my reservoir has 11 gallons

Read the instructions on the back, I would use about one tsp each per gallon (11 tsps for 11 gallon res) at first (or at 600 ppms) for the age of your plants, and up it accordingly every res change until you reach 1200 ppms which I like keeping mine at when they are at full blown flowering. Also if you are using powders, what I do is pour the powder into a jar and put some water in and shake it until its desolved before adding the mixture to the res, this helps it being water soluble and reduces chunks of the stuff to collect at the bottom of the res. And this is VERY IMPORTANT! Add your Flora Micro into your res FIRST, then your Gro (if you are still using grow) then your Bloom. If you screw the order up you can lock up your nutes and plants with nute lockup. If in doubt read the instructions until you understand them, there is a reason they print them in the back. Good luck.
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:32 PM
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Read the instructions on the back, I would use about one tsp each per gallon (11 tsps for 11 gallon res) at first (or at 600 ppms) for the age of your plants, and up it accordingly every res change until you reach 1200 ppms which I like keeping mine at when they are at full blown flowering. Also if you are using powders, what I do is pour the powder into a jar and put some water in and shake it until its desolved before adding the mixture to the res, this helps it being water soluble and reduces chunks of the stuff to collect at the bottom of the res. And this is VERY IMPORTANT! Add your Flora Micro into your res FIRST, then your Gro (if you are still using grow) then your Bloom. If you screw the order up you can lock up your nutes and plants with nute lockup. If in doubt read the instructions until you understand them, there is a reason they print them in the back. Good luck.
Look at this thread

http://www.verticalgreen.org/showthread.php?t=228

This nute recipe is called the lucas formula. It is freakin awesome for use with GH nutes.

If you follow this schedule you cant go wrong.
 

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