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Old 08-10-2009, 05:32 PM
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i tried to do my own side by side, Canna vs. AN, but not one shop will honor A.N.'s money back if you dont see better results deal, so i backed out. the money back thing is a scam.

the nutrient challange video looks the exact opposite of scientific, its pretty ghetto. It doesnt explain any details, some of the shots are takin up against a fence in someones backyard which seems a bit odd to me, and the worst part is they dont have the correct nutes in the pics! Example: in the canna pic, it has the wrong nutes, not canna nutes, and i didnt ever see any bottles of canna nutes anywhere. im pretty sure they used the same bottles for dutch masters pics as they did for canna. idk something seems off.
So you would buy canna with no money back offer but not AN? Doesn't make sense. I myself don't look to buy things for refunds, but I do buy for quality. Yeah that video is off for sure. I think they took some of AN's buds and put them in the other guys totals to make them feel better. That's just my O. I wasn't there. lmao.
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:09 PM
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So you would buy canna with no money back offer but not AN? Doesn't make sense. I myself don't look to buy things for refunds, but I do buy for quality. Yeah that video is off for sure. I think they took some of AN's buds and put them in the other guys totals to make them feel better. That's just my O. I wasn't there. lmao.
exactly, i would buy a product with 20 + years of great reviews (canna) without any worry. + i'm already using canna, its not like i'm trying to decided between the 2.
i just am sick of hearing about A.N. and wanted to be able to speak from actual experience when i say that they wont improve shit if your already using a top of the line nutrient company like Van De Zwaan House & Garden or Canna. I personally think u wouldnt see much of any difference accept in your pocket, time, and shelf space.

but A.N. has a lot of not so great reviews, coming from reliable sources.

i think the fact that all the hydro shops wont honor A.N.'s guarantee 4 better results, shows you what the store owners think about A.N. -( that its not actually gunna give improvements over most companies, so why would they honor it??)

i had 5 different hydro stores laugh in my face when i told them i wanted to do a side by side with A.N. vs. Canna...
Everyone in the industry is sick of A.N. crossing the line with their b.s. claims... and you can not go from 1 pounds to 2 pounds by switching from canna to a.n. !!!

i was only gunna waste my time and $ on the side by side if i could get my moneyback at the end and use it to buy my usual Canna Coco nutes.

if you buy for quality, than switch to H&G or Canna, (they use pharmacuticle grade ingredients.)
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jberry, I am not against any of the other companies out there. I guess I am just not buying into their hype. I like AN, it works for me. I am not for them being expensive but if you know anything about these products there is a pretty steep markup on all of them. A good 50-100% on some of the stuff. Sometimes the hydro stores want to charge more just because it is AN and that is crap, but the owners like to make money off of the customers. Canna claims to use pharmaceuticals as well as AN. I have not been to either place. So one ad is better then the other? I am up for giving the small guy a shot. GH is huge, Botanicare is huge, and they make all kinds of stuff that I do use but not especially their nutes. Last time I checked H&G was one of the more expensive nutes out there. AN is just not afraid to be associated with pot. Canna is, and has a disclaimer on its US site. That doesn't mean it won't grow pot now does it?
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:53 AM
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jberry, I am not against any of the other companies out there. I guess I am just not buying into their hype. I like AN, it works for me. I am not for them being expensive but if you know anything about these products there is a pretty steep markup on all of them. A good 50-100% on some of the stuff. Sometimes the hydro stores want to charge more just because it is AN and that is crap, but the owners like to make money off of the customers. Canna claims to use pharmaceuticals as well as AN. I have not been to either place. So one ad is better then the other? I am up for giving the small guy a shot. GH is huge, Botanicare is huge, and they make all kinds of stuff that I do use but not especially their nutes. Last time I checked H&G was one of the more expensive nutes out there. AN is just not afraid to be associated with pot. Canna is, and has a disclaimer on its US site. That doesn't mean it won't grow pot now does it?
haha, what hype do the other companies have? A.N. is the only company that tries to hype up their company to the point that its funny. and guess what? you did buy into it.
you like A.N. bcuz theyre not afraid to be associated with pot? or bcuz you like the cool names of the 400 products they dont need to have that are totally overpriced and broken down into 400 puzzle pieces? regardless of them being good quality or not, you bought into paying more $ for reasons i think are obvious.

if A.N., Canna, H&G, and a few others i'm sure, all use the same quality grade ingredients, then why would you use A.N. when they cost more and have everything seperated out for no reason?

because that works for you?

you dont think A.N. is selling people hype??
well, here's the label off A.N. "Bud Candy"... you tell me if this isnt a bunch of b.s. hype, with no actual real info at all. you would never ever ever see something like this on any other companies bottle!

so here it is:
BUD CANDY:
IMAGINE BACK IN YOUR PAST WHEN YOU WERE A KID AT THE COUNTY FAIR EATING COTTON CANDY. IT WAS PURE DELIGHT THAT MELTED IN YOUR MOUTH LEAVING YOUR FINGERS STICKY AND GOOEY! THAT SWEET DELICIOUS TASTE AND THOSE SMELLS IT DROVE YOU CRAZY! NOT ONLY DID IT SMELL AND TASTE DELICIOUS YOU GOT AN IMMEDIATE BOLT OF ENERGY FROM ALL THAT SUGAR THAT RUSHED THROUGH YOUR VEINS! NOW ITS TIME TO BRING ALL OF THAT SAME GOOD AND SWEET STUFF HOME TO YOUR PLANTS!

...come on now!! ... it even comes with a shiny glitter label !

they are a good quality, but everyone that uses them should demand they continue to combine their products (which they are finally starting to do) and lower their prices. and i wish they would stop making promises they cant keep, whether its a money back guarantee of doubling your yield.
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whatever i shouldnt come on the A.N. thread and bash them. and im sure they give good results.
i was even gunna try them, but thats when i thought i could try them risk free, which was perfect since im skeptical, but that's out the window so i'll stick to my canna.

you A.N. boys and girls be careful out there.
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:33 AM
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Hey jberry, you can follow along and see what is reported. I really don't think people here get paid or sponsored but it seems like it sometimes. As I understand it you just have an untested opinion. I have been using AN and am liking what I am seeing. When I was looking at nutes first off I didn't want to go with some "mega corporate" company such as GH or Botanicare. My opinion is that those mega corps aren't focusing on quality they are after quantity and taking everyones money. When was the last time you were in a shop and didn't see GH? Never. It's just like cockroaches you'll never get rid of it. I looked at quality and that included House and Garden, way too expensive, Canna, AN, and some of the small guys out of NorCal. NorCal just to unproven for me, known for great pot but not nutes. So that left me Canna and AN. AN along with GW pharmaceuticals are the only two companies in the world that are government licensed to grow and research pot. Canna doesn't. Canna is named after a lilly. I'm guessing you can grow some killer lillies. So that left me with the marketing genius of AN. A company that makes nutes for pot, not lilies, not tomatoes, not anything else but pot. AN does have some slick labels, look how upset you got reading it, I started drooling myself cause those descriptions go great with pot. Just look at the seed companies and pot descriptions they are endless!! Plus I really don't like silly little disclaimers like Canna has on their site about illegal activities! That disclaimer is great for 13 year old kiddies. I am grown, know what is right and wrong, and have nobody telling me what to do. I also like my money to go to things I support. AN supports marijuana, and so do I, so I support AN. I like lilies but not enough to support them. I am about legalizing marijuana not running from it, hiding from it, or pretending its something else. So when it comes time to really legalize it I would expect AN to be there to help, and I would suspect that Canna will still be selling lily fertilizer. You should tell Canna to get rid of the disclaimer cause it ain't working, might lower advertising cost!
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Hey jberry, you can follow along and see what is reported. I really don't think people here get paid or sponsored but it seems like it sometimes. As I understand it you just have an untested opinion. I have been using AN and am liking what I am seeing. When I was looking at nutes first off I didn't want to go with some "mega corporate" company such as GH or Botanicare. My opinion is that those mega corps aren't focusing on quality they are after quantity and taking everyones money. When was the last time you were in a shop and didn't see GH? Never. It's just like cockroaches you'll never get rid of it. I looked at quality and that included House and Garden, way too expensive, Canna, AN, and some of the small guys out of NorCal. NorCal just to unproven for me, known for great pot but not nutes. So that left me Canna and AN. AN along with GW pharmaceuticals are the only two companies in the world that are government licensed to grow and research pot. Canna doesn't. Canna is named after a lilly. I'm guessing you can grow some killer lillies. So that left me with the marketing genius of AN. A company that makes nutes for pot, not lilies, not tomatoes, not anything else but pot. AN does have some slick labels, look how upset you got reading it, I started drooling myself cause those descriptions go great with pot. Just look at the seed companies and pot descriptions they are endless!! Plus I really don't like silly little disclaimers like Canna has on their site about illegal activities! That disclaimer is great for 13 year old kiddies. I am grown, know what is right and wrong, and have nobody telling me what to do. I also like my money to go to things I support. AN supports marijuana, and so do I, so I support AN. I like lilies but not enough to support them. I am about legalizing marijuana not running from it, hiding from it, or pretending its something else. So when it comes time to really legalize it I would expect AN to be there to help, and I would suspect that Canna will still be selling lily fertilizer. You should tell Canna to get rid of the disclaimer cause it ain't working, might lower advertising cost!
1. H&G is way cheaper than A.N. or Canna so your wrong on that.
2. if A.N. changed their name to marijuana Nutrients you would probably pay more bcuz your a moron.
3. you actually admit to falling for the marketing on the label.
4. i couldnt even finish reading your post bcuz your right, you do seem like you work for A.N. and get paid to make posts and most experienced growers know that an is no better than others. period.
5. why do u insist on talking about GH and Botinicare???? i dont give a fuck.
6. wake up.

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1. H&G is way cheaper than A.N. or Canna so your wrong on that.
2. if A.N. changed their name to marijuana Nutrients you would probably pay more bcuz your a moron.
3. you actually admit to falling for the marketing on the label.
4. i couldnt even finish reading your post bcuz your right, you do seem like you work for A.N. and get paid to make posts and most experienced growers know that an is no better than others. period.
5. why do u insist on talking about GH and Botinicare???? i dont give a fuck.
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I have to agree with Jberry too. If you guys want to waste your money and spend a few hours a week playing chemist then go for it. You'll eventually come to the same realization that we came to: you've been had by the hype.
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Just starting a thread to see what everyone thinks about Advanced Nutrients.

I like their nutes.

What is your favorite additive from AN?

Bud candy gets my vote.
sorry if im stealing your thread but i dont see ne good answers to your question. i want to know what people think as well but it doesn't get to that and someone has to come along and messes everything up. sorry
 

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