man your freakin smart

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I'm building one of these for 4 plants. I have gone with the following parts, and it seems to be working ok but not optimal:

Ecoplus 265Gph pump
1/2" Vinyl tube
4) L Fittings
3) T Fittings
4) 360 degree micro spinners

All parts from Home Harvest.

Question for advise, how small of a container can I go with? Is 30 Gallon recommended?

Can I use Vinyl pipe or should I go with PVC?

Should I use more than 4 sprayers?

Is this pump big enough?

Great thread FilthyFletch. Really answered a lot of mine questions regarding how to grow.

I just have a few questions if you don't mind answering. Some of these may sound noobish, and there's a reason for that. Because I am a noob.

1. Does this type of system work for the flowering or the vegetative stage? Or can it work for both? If it can work for both, is it recommended?

2. Will there be a point where the 20 gallon tank will become too small and constrict growth, especially if I use it for the vegetative stage?

3. Kind of a general question. If I were to use two of these set ups for both stages in one room, what would you recommend I use to block the lights from the two stages from interfering with each other? Or would this system be quite efficient in that I could place it anywhere in the house, even a closet like you mentioned? You see, I have a room in mind that's quite good and I know I want at least one stage in there. But like I mentioned, if I can place the other in another part of my house that isn't as good as this room but still do okay, then I'll do that and avoid the hassle of light separation and such. I hope this question made sense, haha.

4. As you mentioned in the second page, would I need something different for freshly cut clones until roots have developed and germinated seeds? Or can I place them directly into the 6 plant aero enclosure?

5. This might help me, but do you have a picture of your set up? Do you use the same set up for both plant stages? What are you using to hold the light above?

Any help regarding these questions would be appreciated, thanks man. I might tackle this myself but if I simply don't have the time to, I might have you make me one or two.

which do you prefer to use fletch? The lawn sprinkler or the several misters?

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Sorry for the delay been out of town this week.Lets start with ugmjfarmer and work down.You can use vinyl I use pvc as its cheaper stronger and easier to get.I wouldnt use any kind of spinner misters as the roots will hang on them and stop the spinning and block the watering so they dont work well at all.I reccomend a 20 gallon tub for just 4 plants not really any smaller as the roots will fill it quickly and the amount of water plays into how often you have to ph or adjust your ppm. Less water more ph and ppm jumps as plants drink .
Next onto Chowder Heads questions..This system works from start to finish.As with all tub setups you fit the plant size to the space.A 6 plant unit in like a 30-35 gallon res you want to use lollipopping techs and go to flower quickly so plants stay small and you get main colas.I highly reccomend using rooted clones as they can go right to flower when rooted then placed in the setup so you can finish with around8-10 inch plants that you lollipopped and go for like 1-2 main colas from each plant.A 20 gallon tub can do 4 smaller plants all the way through but bigger is much better as the roots will fill the units fast if correct ppm and ph are monitored.Question 3 is a little unclear if you veg and flower you need completely different lights and light times meaning your flower tub will be in 12 hours of uninterupted dark while the veg tub will be on 24 hours of light or 18 if thats what you like.The veg will use your blue mh lighting while the flower will be under hps red/orange lighting so you can have in same room but have to be completely seperated so lights dont bother the 12 hours dark of the flowering unit. These can go anywhere you have room they work well in closets.Now for clones I like to just use my humidity dome and rockwool cubes til the roots form through the cubes then toss them into the aero unit. You can make an aero cloner if you want but to be honest a good cheap humidity dome and rockwool is the best way to go.Last question on this about setup.Im not currently using any tubs as I use a 32 site larger post setup I showed in my journels and then I use 2 4x8 tents with flood tables and 1 4x4 tent with flood tables. I probably will do a 4x8 tent with 5 of these units in it some time soon though so check my grow journels for that in maybe 3-4 months when I have free time to setup a new site.My lights are hung from the tent hanging mounts.The larger aerosetup I have a 8 foots light mover rail with a tandem carrier holding 2 600 watt lioghts that moves back and forth on the rail bolted directly to the cieling.Light yoy yo hangers work well for a tub unit in a closet or area they let you use 2 hooks on the cileing then they have a retractable cords to raise and lower the light to desired hieght,,,And last to Proph question.I like the misters in tubs and my larger post setups but I like the pop up sprinklers in single plant 5 gallon bucket setups or for aero cloner buckets. Hope this helps out..

I think you missed ugmjfarmer's Q about the pump... =]

I have a similar Q... What size pump do you use for a single 5 gal bucket setup... ??

EDIT >>> BTW thanks for this thread and all the good info in here filthy... =]

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I just know i planted them around here somewhere...=]

fuckin fantastic job mate done well lol

On a 5 gallon bucket for a pop up sprinkler a 150 gph pump is plenty strong

Now kindly let me axe you this. How come a person couldnt encaspsulate the pond pump in the crotch section of dirty pany hose as opposed to buying the special bag for 9 bucks? How come you trying to make me spend money? Do you have any affiliation with Osama...Obama or Chelsies Mama perhaps?

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Do you have to use an irrigation manifold to shoot the water into the pot or could the plants live if the pot was sitting in the water? Thanks!