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Hey Al,
Just a quick one before you slip off into the night again. I have a 3'x4' flowering area. 2 2'X3' tables. A 4 or 5 week rotation. I am going to be cramming around 50 lollypops in there. The question is 600W or 1000W? Actually just wondering what you would do. Either way the light will be air cooled by A/C air from inside the house. I understand the 50W/ft^2 which puts the 600W at the minimum for the space. Thing is, I am leaning towards the 1KW just because I do not want anything fluffy. I want only the most dense of buttery nugs. Thanks.
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Chopped 16 ladies this morning...

My rotation is finally getting established... well sort of... I still need to fine tune it...

The goal is to pull 24 lollies down every week...

4x 600w - 48 clones under each... a far cry from the Aerogarden days .. eh?!?!




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Dammit gypsy talk about single colas. Those colas are nice...no branching out at all. How in the hell...
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Dammit gypsy talk about single colas. Those colas are nice...no branching out at all. How in the hell...


Thanks!

It's called SCISSORS...

But seriously... really...

May I suggest a quick read?


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Chopped 16 ladies this morning...

My rotation is finally getting established... well sort of... I still need to fine tune it...

The goal is to pull 24 lollies down every week...

4x 600w - 48 clones under each... a far cry from the Aerogarden days .. eh?!?!




Hey gypsy, what is the size of those pots in volume or in dimensions?
Do you cut the side branches during the 1st or 3rd week of flowering. I think I ve asked you before but cant find the post.
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Thanks!

It's called SCISSORS...

But seriously... really...

May I suggest a quick read?


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I'm very familiar with the technique, just never been able to pull it off quite like that yet. I mean that cola starts below the top of the pepsi can...no branching. Very well done.
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Hey gypsy, what is the size of those pots in volume or in dimensions?
Do you cut the side branches during the 1st or 3rd week of flowering. I think I ve asked you before but cant find the post.
My pots are 5.5" x 5.5" x 7" tall... or... 14cm x 14cm x 18cm tall...

I cut branches when I cut my clones, then pretty much anytime I see anything stretch over 1"...

I am not big on watches or calendars... but I want no branches, so whenever I see one, I chop it off...lol..

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I'm very familiar with the technique, just never been able to pull it off quite like that yet. I mean that cola starts below the top of the pepsi can...no branching. Very well done.
Thanks!

I hope I didn't come out sounding like an ass... I do that a lot without meaning to.....

One thing that I have noticed is that when I chop the branches on the top 2/3 , if I do not chop it at the stem, and I leave that budsite by cutting the branch 1/8" (3cm) from the main stalk... I will get the buds to form along the stalk... and they are all pretty dense...

If I had patience, I bet that thing would fill in completely... but I am not...lol...

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Hey Al,
Just a quick one before you slip off into the night again. I have a 3'x4' flowering area. 2 2'X3' tables.
Isn't that 4'x6'?

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A 4 or 5 week rotation. I am going to be cramming around 50 lollypops in there. The question is 600W or 1000W?
I need a clarification on how big your lighted space actually is before I launch in, to be honest.

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Actually just wondering what you would do. Either way the light will be air cooled by A/C air from inside the house.
If you're going to use cooltubes (and I highly recommend them), they don't need a feed form the aircon, in fact, that's a bit wasteful. A cooltube doesn't care about the difference between low-humidity, ~10C air and 20-30C ambient. Cooltubes should take their intake air from outside the room's airmass and dump it outside the room as well, taking care to be organised such as not to re-draw cooltube exhaust right back into the intake.

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I understand the 50W/ft^2 which puts the 600W at the minimum for the space. Thing is, I am leaning towards the 1KW just because I do not want anything fluffy. I want only the most dense of buttery nugs. Thanks.
All depends on the actual size of the the area you need to light. As a rule, a 1000 in a cooltube will kick the pants off a 600 because both can each be spaced about the same distance from the leaves. Also as a rule, fewer ballasts are gooder. There's eddy current wastage in iron core ballasts which can be minimised by using fewer, bigger lights. In example, a 600HPS draws about 665-670W from the mains and makes about 95,000 initial lumens. A 1000 makes about 150,000lm and draws about 1100W from the mains. However, it may be better to use a pair of 600s, depending on the size & shape of the tray space.

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4x 600w - 48 clones under each... a far cry from the Aerogarden days .. eh?!?!
Wowwwww, niiiice work, GB. Very pretty. Aerogarbage users, take note...

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I'm very familiar with the technique, just never been able to pull it off quite like that yet. I mean that cola starts below the top of the pepsi can...no branching. Very well done.
Well, you got your answer as to how that's accomplished- scissors! Trim off any branching that appears on the lower 1/3 of the plants. The end of wks 1 & 3 is about the right time to prune in most cases, but regardless of specifically when you prune, the point is to not allow any branching more than 1" long to remain on the plants. Restricts airflow and small lower branches tend to produce popcorny buds.
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No Al, ya fuckwit, it's not.

More coffee...!

For a 3'x4' space, I'd probably use a 1000, but a 600 would of course be fine. A 1000 will give you better nugs on the fringe of the coverage area because of the much higher light intensity and thus foliar penetration of a 1000. A 600 will save you some cash on the power bill, tho.
 

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