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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Fox View Post
    Unfortunately the box we're using is 5.5 feet tall, and 2 x 2 wide. And Long story short, we HAVE to use it. Do you still think it will work? Should we get a different strain besides ICE that would grow shorter?

    You can VEG a shorter period of time and you can bend them over too.



    Also, is it really worth getting the Stealth bubbleponics kit? Or should we get the Mini Hydro Harvest with one 5000K Luni Twist? (The one from Hydroponicz)

    I have 3 years and 7 grows with the SH Bubbleponics kit. I do nto know anything about Mini-hydro kit, so I don;t know.

    We are first time growers and want to do this right but due to the conditions of necessary discretion, we need it as simply as possible and with as little maintenance as possible. Hence choosing a simple hydroponics kit.


    You might consider a bucket or a hempy bucket or a DIY DWC bucket ro tank.
    Also, we're only growing 3 plants. That might be more helpful.

    Please let me know!



    I can't advise you what to do, but I;'d be glad to advise you AFTER you decide.

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    Thank you so much Roseman and Blueybong!

    We are ordering everything tomorrow and sketched out the plan as follows:

    1. We are no longer ordering Nirvana ICE, but instead switched to White Label's WHITE ICE. It grows smaller, big yield and in a shorter period of time. (more expensive but attitude seeds is also sending 5 fem thai super skunk and 1 fem gigabud seed!!!)

    2. The grow design stays the same, and we decided to keep the Stealth Hydroponics but instead buy the Dual Spectrum II upgrade (which if your familiar with, is 8400 lumens of blue and red light... Does that mean its 85 watt thought?).

    3. Finally, the cardboard box design stays the same. I checked out Bluey's link to the plastic tub grow box and the dimensions are similar, if the box is not larger. The cardboard is about a half inch thick and lined entirely with white duct tape. Based off Bluey's new grow (What can I say? Thanks bluey) I'm using the scrog method and placing a screen above the plants if they start to get too close to the bulbs. Also we are getting an air ionizer to get rid of any smell.

    All in all it should be good. After, no exaggeration, YEARS of reading about all kinds of various grow operations of all shade and color I'm very excited to see how my own will turn out after investing the proper time and money into it. Wish me luck gentleman. I will be posting pictures and no doubt looking for any advice you have to give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Fox View Post
    Thank you so much Roseman and Blueybong!

    We are ordering everything tomorrow and sketched out the plan as follows:

    1. We are no longer ordering Nirvana ICE, but instead switched to White Label's WHITE ICE. It grows smaller, big yield and in a shorter period of time. (more expensive but attitude seeds is also sending 5 fem thai super skunk and 1 fem gigabud seed!!!)

    2. The grow design stays the same, and we decided to keep the Stealth Hydroponics but instead buy the Dual Spectrum II upgrade (which if your familiar with, is 8400 lumens of blue and red light... Does that mean its 85 watt thought?).The 85W bulbs are 4200 lumens each. So 8400 for two. Be sure you tell them you want the 85W, so they don't send you the 105W's.

    3. Finally, the cardboard box design stays the same. I checked out Bluey's link to the plastic tub grow box and the dimensions are similar, if the box is not larger. The cardboard is about a half inch thick and lined entirely with white duct tape. Based off Bluey's new grow (What can I say? Thanks bluey) I'm using the scrog method and placing a screen above the plants if they start to get too close to the bulbs. Also we are getting an air ionizer to get rid of any smell. Lining the cardboard with mylar is the best, but white tape will work too.

    All in all it should be good. After, no exaggeration, YEARS of reading about all kinds of various grow operations of all shade and color I'm very excited to see how my own will turn out after investing the proper time and money into it. Wish me luck gentleman. I will be posting pictures and no doubt looking for any advice you have to give.

    RF
    Rock on bro!!!!

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    Default It begins!!!

    As you can see, the grow box has been finished. Although there is no picture of it, the hydroponics kit is totally set up and we have now officially started germinating White Label's White Ice in rockwool!

    Included is another picture of the box with ACCURATE measurements (for a change). I intend to start scrogging about 8 to 10 inches up (Supposedly these plants get huge) leaving approximately 3 x 2 feet of sheer grow space.

    Comments? Suggestions?
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    Is the white piece of pvc on the top an exhaust port?

    You'll need to exhaust through the top side and allow enough of an opening on the bottom for fresh air.

    Air circulation is how to keep your temps & humidity under control.

    Peace!!

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    Default We have liftoff

    We have sproutage! Two of the three rockwool cubes have sprouts. We set up one light for for the plants and everything seems to be going nicely. We also added 1 half bag of Micro and 1 half bag of Grow nutrient mix to the water. We cut a hole in the corner of the box (Not visible, but its on the other side of the door) to let air in, and there is another hole (both approximately 2 x 2 inches) for air to vent through.

    Any tips for the early sprouting stage?
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    don't add nutes.

    your rockwool looks soaked.. shake off excess water, never squeeze.

    don't put a lot of light on them. at first start with about 1 cfl per plant then add more as they get more leaves.

    keep cfl about 4-5 inches away from them, then drop them to about 2-3 inches after a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Fox View Post
    We have sproutage! Two of the three rockwool cubes have sprouts. We set up one light for for the plants and everything seems to be going nicely. We also added 1 half bag of Micro and 1 half bag of Grow nutrient mix to the water. We cut a hole in the corner of the box (Not visible, but its on the other side of the door) to let air in, and there is another hole (both approximately 2 x 2 inches) for air to vent through.

    Any tips for the early sprouting stage?

    What are your temps? temp of water? temp of area around the sprouts?
    what is the pH?

    Remember that in nature, in outdoors, a sprout comes up looking for food and light, but you did good with 1/2 to start with. I use dto start with a full packet and I dropped down to 1/4 packet at the sight of the 3rd and 4th leaf, then 1/4 packet added every other day. The Instruction CD says start with half and that works fine.
    I hope you are using the 6500k bulb, if you are using just one. I suggest go ahead and use both, for the DUAL Spectrum.
    If you place the lights too high or far away, like 4 or 5 inches, they will STRETCH TOO TALL, TOO early. I've done a ton of experiments for Stealth Hydro, and wrote reprots for them. One test was placement of bulbs. The 85s can be two inches close, with no harmful effect and with favorable effect.
    Have you visited our SH thread?
    here:Pics of Pot that is a link to the middle, where we have the most pics.
    and here is a link to a condensed much shorter version of the same thread:
    Roseman and purpdaddys guide for my Bubbleponics setup from Stealth Hydroponic you really need to read it all, it is NOT too long.

    Good Luck and let me know how we can help. Blueybong is an expert withthe SH bubbleponics system too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Fox View Post
    We have sproutage! Two of the three rockwool cubes have sprouts. We set up one light for for the plants and everything seems to be going nicely. We also added 1 half bag of Micro and 1 half bag of Grow nutrient mix to the water. We cut a hole in the corner of the box (Not visible, but its on the other side of the door) to let air in, and there is another hole (both approximately 2 x 2 inches) for air to vent through.

    Any tips for the early sprouting stage?
    RAY, I went back and studied your pics.

    Are those feminized seeds? IF YES, then 3 is great. IF NOT, you should start 6 and remove the males later.
    And, you need to make some covers, to cover the rocks, so LIGHT does not penetrate thru the rocks and give you algae. I use the bottoms cut out of styrafoam saucers, see:

    After the plants are bushy, you don't need the covers.

    AND your light is too far away.

    Peace,

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    ROSEMAN,

    Thank you so so much for this advice, this is exactly what we were looking for.

    Are those feminized seeds?

    Yes they are. We are growing 3 feminized White Ice plants.

    you need to make some covers, to cover the rocks.

    We realized that after giving your and Purpdaddy's grow journal another read through, and covered them with pieces of paper.

    AND your light is too far away.

    We moved the light closer to the plants, about 3 inches above them (though in this picture the red spectrum light needed to be lowered). Just for the record, we are using Dual Spectrum II lights. Also, notice the newest addition to the WI family! The PH is exactly 6.0 and I'm not sure of the exact temperature of the water, but we keep it at a temperature of just barely lukewarm. We're going to change water every Saturday. And another question: When you SCROG how do you keep the plants in place without breaking stems when changing the water?

    - Ray Fox
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