
04-30-2008, 09:08 AM
|  | Stoner Stoner | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tongue deep in pink
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Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct yeah, drop the pump in a knee-hi nylon stocking. Good enough. Check often if there's enough debris around to plug the filter.
Nylon stocking material is a pretty good all-purpose air & water filter for particulates down to about .01mm.
Tell the gf you want her old stockings (mind the ones with really bad runs, they go in the bin).... but it's not because you're a chair sniffer or anything...  |
Niice.. thanks.. there are three trays already acquired of the Jiffy cube things.. in all it cost $0.09 per jiffy cube (including the two trays and lids).
That was a steal in my opinion.. I think I will just have to get a nice pump with a nice filter and put plenty of clay pebbles around it in 3" pots.
The plan is a monthly harvest with two rubbermaid/sterlite opaque tubs with aero sprayers. Two rez's, two pumps, running 24/7.
Thanks again Guru,
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04-30-2008, 12:49 PM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2006
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| | well, hope it goes OK.
I do have to say that I CRINGE every time someone calls me 'guru,' etc. I fuck it up OFTEN. I am faaaaaaaaar from perfect.
I can call you Eddie, and Eddie, when you call me, you can call me Al.  | 
04-30-2008, 09:58 PM
|  | Stoner Stoner | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tongue deep in pink
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Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct well, hope it goes OK.
I do have to say that I CRINGE every time someone calls me 'guru,' etc. I fuck it up OFTEN. I am faaaaaaaaar from perfect.
I can call you Eddie, and Eddie, when you call me, you can call me Al.  | Haha, I hear ya. We all live and learn.. it is just that I look at your perpetual op.. and my itty-bitty tent..
You cut clones every week, with great success.
You produce enough in one cycle to last me a year.
When I have a question that I can't find the answer to first, I come to one of four people:
Al B. Fuct
Earl
CALIGROWN
Garden Knowm
There is a reason why they are listed as such.
I'm building on your design.. I've wanted a perpetual grow for years, I've had to settle with guerilla ops.. which has made me very security concious.
Earl, another hyrdo/aero op.. very strict in calculations and design.. a premier example of my linear track of thought.
CALIGROWN, for the pure fact of yield and simplicity.
Garden Knowm, the fact he produced such nice bud and numbers using CFL's.. I love fluoro's for their advantages.. but I agree with you in the perpetual side of the HID's.
Shit, the only reason I purchased the cooltube was from your example. The batwing to be bought later, or built. 400w for mum's.. 48" Quad T5's for two 10"x20" clone trays.. 24" Dual T5's for seedlings.
The 600w was great for the size, a 400w would suffice.. but I like a little overkill (75w per sq. ft.).
I was thinking.. maybe the jiffy cubes could be used to root them.. then wash away the material and place them into the clay pebbles using the aero sprayers.. no need to water from the top since they will be sprayed continually in the rooting tub. I can also use the cut-out plastic from the lid to cover the 3" net cups to prevent light from damaging roots!
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05-01-2008, 08:33 AM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northeastern USA
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| | you could wash it out, why bother? You probably can't get it all out without damaging the roots and none of it will stay suspended, it will either float or sink to the bottom, and as Al has stated a nylon over the pump will keep it from getting into the pump. If it washes out let it. VV | 
05-01-2008, 08:47 AM
|  | Stoner Stoner | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tongue deep in pink
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Originally Posted by VictorVIcious you could wash it out, why bother? You probably can't get it all out without damaging the roots and none of it will stay suspended, it will either float or sink to the bottom, and as Al has stated a nylon over the pump will keep it from getting into the pump. If it washes out let it. VV | I was going to get a pump with a filter anyways from the local aquarium shop.
I think I might use the nylon (sterlized of course) around the jiffy cubes.. letting the roots go through that and then through the peebles into the aero tub. | 
05-02-2008, 05:03 PM
|  | Marijuana Toker Marijuana Toker | | Join Date: Jan 2008
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| | Thats great info you have posted. im in need of some couse my clones suck dick and keep dieing on me!
Are you feeding your moms up till and threw cloning or just for the first week after taking cuts? | 
05-02-2008, 09:46 PM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by ryan miller Thats great info you have posted. im in need of some couse my clones suck dick and keep dieing on me! | Overwatering is newb mistake numero uno. Slow rooting, slow growth, yellow leaves, last about 14 days before croaking? Overwatering. Quote: |
Are you feeding your moms up till and threw cloning or just for the first week after taking cuts?
| The mums live in a tray which is flooded 2x/day (every 12h) from a tank running Canna Vega, 1500-1800ppm @ 5.8. Never changes. | 
05-03-2008, 10:45 PM
|  | Stoner Stoner | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tongue deep in pink
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| | I think we will use up these Jiffy cubes in soil first.. we have so many and plenty of soil.. first we need to see if these things will allow for roots.
The directions say to fully soak them.. but I know if they are they will promote root rot. I'm thinking just enough moisture to get them to expand and then clone from there. | 
05-04-2008, 12:56 AM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2006
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| | Even RW cubes have to be soaked for 24h before use, The trick is not to keep the cloning media saturated post plugging stems in them. You'll certainly get roots in jiffy pots, they just can be problematic later on in a recirculating system. You won't be using recirculation with soil, so don't fret. | 
05-04-2008, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct Even RW cubes have to be soaked for 24h before use, The trick is not to keep the cloning media saturated post plugging stems in them. You'll certainly get roots in jiffy pots, they just can be problematic later on in a recirculating system. You won't be using recirculation with soil, so don't fret. | I'll keep that in mind.. 24 hours.. and I'll use my scale to see what kind of water-mass needs to be in them before rooting clones!
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