A batch of clones in rockwool - Page 12

DR. VonDankenstine · #**111** 06-21-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct

You know what happens when you come back from holidays? You get the flu from hanging around in airports with kids sneezing their heads off. Bleah. In bed all weekend.

The high ppm you're seeing is coming from dissolved Ca & Mg. I have personally confirmed anecdotal evidence that N in clone watering solution seems to slow down rooting by several days, but I've not heard of nor confirmed the same using water high in Ca & Mg.

2/10 isn't good at all. Did you get more popping out in the following days?

I forgot to ask, do you have a heat mat? A proper heat mat set for 30C will speed things along and help consistency of rooting.

Puzzling over this one.

had one more pop in the first run 3/10----The second test came out 5 out of 10-------I do use a heat mat------seems the strain super silver haze a little sensitive to this cloning tec. I have an idea-------If you give me your tap water ppm I will dilute mine to match with RO( I think this will be as close to what your doing as possible) I will also add 1.7ml/L h202 instead of the 1ml/L I used the last 2 times. also------what is the ph of your tap water?

Al B. Fuct · #**112** 06-21-2008, 04:12 PM

Aha. The difference is the heat mat. Gotta get a proper horticultural heat mat.

My tapwater is about 140-200ppm (that's all the resolution you get out of a Truncheon) and 7.1 at the moment.

Doubt it's the strain. I've never had trouble cloning anything when I get the conditions right.

It's midwinter here now and I'm having a spot of trouble because my clonebox isn't staying warm enough, averaging 10 days right now.

DR. VonDankenstine · #**113** 06-21-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct

Aha. The difference is the heat mat. Gotta get a proper horticultural heat mat.

My tapwater is about 140-200ppm (that's all the resolution you get out of a Truncheon) and 7.1 at the moment.

Doubt it's the strain. I've never had trouble cloning anything when I get the conditions right.

It's midwinter here now and I'm having a spot of trouble because my clonebox isn't staying warm enough, averaging 10 days right now.

My heat-mat is a 4 tray width from GENERAL HYDROPONICS, it has a thermostat with a medium probe-----I have an exergen therm gun that I have checked it with---the mat is within + or - 2 deg of were I set it. Tell me about the proper horticulture heat mat you are talking about???----does it have a temp sensor in the mat itself? And thanks for the prompt reply-----The water info will help me replicate your set-up-----maybe this time 8/10

---------one more question----do you give them any other water or mist during the ten days of cloning ?

gonfarmin · #**114** 06-21-2008, 07:16 PM

bravo bravo good thread my sir

Al B. Fuct · #**115** 06-22-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DR. VonDankenstine

My heat-mat is a 4 tray width from GENERAL HYDROPONICS, it has a thermostat with a medium probe-----I have an exergen therm gun that I have checked it with---the mat is within + or - 2 deg of were I set it. Tell me about the proper horticulture heat mat you are talking about???----does it have a temp sensor in the mat itself? And thanks for the prompt reply-----The water info will help me replicate your set-up-----maybe this time 8/10

---------one more question----do you give them any other water or mist during the ten days of cloning ?

hang on, how did I get the idea you didn't have a mat? *sigh* Jet lag + flu sux.

Right, back to the dwg board.

No, I don't mist anything.

OK, your clonebox temps are ~78F (25.5C), just a bit cool, but should be close enough for rock'n'roll, heat mat is at 28-30C, cubes not overwet, everything sterile when doing the cuttings... you got me, Charlie. With conds like that you ought to be getting 100% in 7-10 days. Let me know what you get when using different water.

OK, back to bed for me... yuk.

firsttimegrowerr · #**116** 06-22-2008, 04:55 PM

Hey al do you think mini RW cubes or hydroton rocks are better as a medium?
Also my mohter plants are in 6in pots right now and there getting kind of big, should i transplant to a bigger pot or theyll be fine in the 6in. THANKS AL!

Al B. Fuct · #**117** 06-23-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by firsttimegrowerr

Hey al do you think mini RW cubes or hydroton rocks are better as a medium?
Also my mohter plants are in 6in pots right now and there getting kind of big, should i transplant to a bigger pot or theyll be fine in the 6in. THANKS AL!

They will be OK in 6" pots for a while. Eventually, after taking several batches of cuttings from them, they will become rootbound. At that point, it's time to replace them with one of their 'kids,' but you can repot into bigger pots if you like, provided there's no nest of gnats which have taken a liking to your rootballs.

If you don't need a batch of cuttings within the next couple of weeks, I'd prune back your mums to about half their present size. The regrowth will have thicker stems.

Pellets allow you to flood 3-5x per lights-on cycle; RW will only let you flood about 1x per 'day.' Because you can flood pellets more often, you can get more oxygenated nute soln through the roots, which will improve vigor and yield. However, RW holds more water, a good insurance policy if there's a watering sys failure.

still sick, back to bed, cya

firsttimegrowerr · #**118** 06-23-2008, 01:33 PM

is pruning them, just basically topping the whole plant?
Wont my plants get to bushy? I have alot of vertical space but not alot horziontaly.

Thanks AL! hope you feel better and glad that your back!

firsttimegrowerr · #**119** 06-23-2008, 05:11 PM

Sorry AL came up with another question,

I decided to change my medium to hydroton rocks so i can flood more often.
How high and how often do you suggest i flood them?
Since im using hydroton should i flood higher then 2-3in up the pot?

THANKS!

DR. VonDankenstine · #**120** 06-24-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct

hang on, how did I get the idea you didn't have a mat? *sigh* Jet lag + flu sux.

Right, back to the dwg board.

No, I don't mist anything.

OK, your clonebox temps are ~78F (25.5C), just a bit cool, but should be close enough for rock'n'roll, heat mat is at 28-30C, cubes not overwet, everything sterile when doing the cuttings... you got me, Charlie. With conds like that you ought to be getting 100% in 7-10 days. Let me know what you get when using different water.

OK, back to bed for me... yuk.

Brother-get felling better---I'm going back in----wish me luck---rockwool-cubes---here I come!!!