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Old 09-12-2006, 04:24 PM
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What's in YOUR res?

I've tried many hydro nutrients over the years, and I'm always checking out new products, and occasionally even switching.

What I'd like to know is what do you use, and why. If the answer is 'because a friend said to,' or 'the hydro store guy,' then say that. I've tried many things because someone said to, or because of something I've read, so this is how all of us learn. And then we can discuss each recipe.

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Most of the past 10 years, I've used GH -general hydroponics- Flora series for basic salts, and then tried different additives with it, and I've also tried B'Cuzz Organics, Advanced Nutrients, and Cutting Edge.

Right now I'm on my 4th crop of another new one - Supernatural.

I use the Supernatural products, AquaGrow, and AquaBloom, and at the end the Super Boost. Instead of their Thrive, I use SuperThrive.

Additives -
Silica Blast, for silicates (stronger plant, can handle abuse better, better yield)
B'Cuzz Bloom, organic additive for hydro (organisms are good for lots of things, better taste and yield)

In the second half of flowering I add a PK booster, like GH's Kool Bloom.

During veg and the first half of flowering, I adjust pH down using Folic Acid (causes the plant to use nutrients better)
second half of flowering, my pH down is phosphoric acid (flowering plants love P*) I keep the pH in the high fives.

* That P means phosphorous, (as in NPK) not your pee

I flush the medium every week or so by running very dilute nutes, like 300 ppm. Then at the end I run fresh, plain water each day for the last 5 days, two of those days I include some Clearex, or FloraClear.
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:32 PM
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Right now I am using GH Floranova grow/bloom, I also add floralicious bloom and hydrogaurd. I am just tring something besides GH flora kit.

How does the Supernatural perform?

Anyone using Advanced Nutrients?
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:27 AM
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GH Floranova Micro and Bloom using Lucas formula 0-5-10 veg and 0-8-16 flower. No need for Grow which saves me serious $$$. When I can afford it...Awesome Blossoms during flower.
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Right now I am using GH Floranova grow/bloom, I also add floralicious bloom and hydrogaurd. I am just tring something besides GH flora kit.

How does the Supernatural perform?

Anyone using Advanced Nutrients?
FloraNova is one of their new ones. I heard that it was supposed to be their "pot-growing-specific" nutrient when it came out, but I've never tried it. I'll be glad to hear how you think it compares. I've used Floralicious, and like any kelp additive, I think it just smells bad, and turns everything black. But they say it helps. Why the hydroguard? that shit is way expensive, and if you don't have pathogens, why use it?

The Supernatural I had high hopes for, and it's letting me down. Same as the AN (advanced nutrients). I've given both an extensive try, with 6-8 crops of each, and they both did not perform as well as the hype. And nowhere near worth the money!

I imagine that I'll be switching back (as always) to GH.
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GH Floranova Micro and Bloom using Lucas formula 0-5-10 veg and 0-8-16 flower. No need for Grow which saves me serious $$$. When I can afford it...Awesome Blossoms during flower.
Ah, our old buddy Lucas. I was a regular on adpc when Lucas and pH devised that recipe. Lucas was the one who posted it on overgrow. And believe me, I tried to go without the grow component, but always got early yellowing/nitrogen deficiency. So I always use the grow, too.

I take it you were an Overgrow reader, Lady?

Tell me about Awesome Blossoms, NPK? Use for second half of flowering? and what water do you use?
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I was an Overgrow reader but more of a CannabisWorld gal . As far as a nitrogen deficiency..I thought I was having one too but found out that I had nute lock out. A little epsom salts cleared that right up. As for Awesome Blossoms I use it when I can afford it, and yes, during last half of flower cycle. I use ph adjusted tap water but would love to be able to use ro, unfortunately that is only a dream for now. With the GH nutes and Lucas formula I only have to adjust ph once at the beginning of the grow. DWC is the only way I have ever grown thus far but would like to venture into other areas in the future as money allows.
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I prolly have enough fertilizers to make a nice sized bomb. lol

Right now I have been experimenting a little.

Grow room:

Envy a+b - I really like this stuff. Not too potent. I don't use very much at first.
Bcuzz root - I add this pretty much until I bloom.
Bcuzz grow - I cut back on this a lot. I'm trying to keep things shorter.
Superthrive - 1-2 cap fulls every 5 gallons. Every watering.
Hydrogen peroxide - Every watering.
Hygrozyme - Turns decaying matter into food. Like dead roots. Every watering.

I have been using these with pretty good success.


Bloom room:

Envy a+b - Almost every watering.
Bcuzz bloom - Works good with the envy but I want to give them more.
Cool bloom - More of a fertilizer than an enhancement like Bcuzz. Worked well. Nice big buds in my aerogarden.
Bio nova bloom - experimenting with this now. I have had lots of recommendations for this. Seems to be working nice. Lots of new growth now.
Cal-mag - I use this at half strength. My bro makes me use it. I don't know.
Hygrozyme - Good stuff.
hydrogen peroxide -
Sweet - adds flavor
banana mana - banana extract adds flavor too.

I have one other bloom nute but I cant remember the name. I think the BN bloom is what I am going to stick with for a while. Seems to be working good.
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hey Widow, that's a nice looking soup recipe. One thing tho, that hygrozyme is good stuff to use, and the bcuzz organic additive, both are being killed off by the h2o2. Those things have a hard enough time with the chemicals in the soup, they don't need the peroxide. Why are you using it every watering?

The Sweet is something that I've said I will try. It's mainly cane sugar and citric acid. I've got a paper from 10 years ago about adding those to the res, and why they work well. I've seen a lot of guys buying it at the shop.

Banana flavored pot, bwa hahaha. That's a good one. When I want that, I just do it the easy way, eat a banana when I lick the joint!
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I use Pure Blend Pro Veg for veg... and Pure Blend Pro Bloom for bloom...
That’s it.. Why? It’s a complete nutrient formula and has a very stable pH. I just follow the directions on the bottle.
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hey Widow, that's a nice looking soup recipe. One thing tho, that hygrozyme is good stuff to use, and the bcuzz organic additive, both are being killed off by the h2o2. Those things have a hard enough time with the chemicals in the soup, they don't need the peroxide. Why are you using it every watering?

The Sweet is something that I've said I will try. It's mainly cane sugar and citric acid. I've got a paper from 10 years ago about adding those to the res, and why they work well. I've seen a lot of guys buying it at the shop.

Banana flavored pot, bwa hahaha. That's a good one. When I want that, I just do it the easy way, eat a banana when I lick the joint!
I was wondering if the peroxide would kill anything. Thanks for the info. I will stop using it.

As for the banana mana... no it doesnt make your pot taste like bananas. lol. The plant uses the banana oils and uses it to make its own oils stronger. So whatever the pot is supposed to smell/taste like the mana makes it stronger. But yes they do have some kind of extracts that you add to add flavors like strawberrys or whatever. One day I might play with some of them.
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