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SomeGuy · #**101** 04-04-2008, 12:48 AM

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I was MOST amused to see these thieves' 'April Fools Day Specials.' Wow, they lopped $1000 off their $1500 storage tub with a fan...

Yeah, THESE are selling like hotcakes...

LOL That some crazy shit. The most expensive thing in my grow so far is lighting. I build mine out of a bunch of shit I had laying around... total cost: FREEEEEE!

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It'll work, as you've found, but it'll work better with a heating element that can be maintained at 29C. Once your other upgrades are out of the way, give it some thought.

This will happen eventually as I know I will hate waiting 7 days over 3.

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Man... you and everyone else! If you're not careful, it'll turn into your occupation. I can think of worse jobs, tho- can't you?

Ive done worse jobs. I came back for graduate school so I can do what I would like to. But I don't think I could ever look at growing as a job, its just too damn much fun. Work is what needs to happen to fill the void between the things I WANT to do...LOL

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Hydroponics is easier than you think, particularly flood hydro- not much harder than soil. You will need pH & ppm meters and cal solns and of course nutes, 50% grade H2O2 and pHDown sauce, but that's about it. The start-up costs are higher than soil- but the rewards of high productivity and conveniences of cheap, easy to dispose, lightweight media so you can use fresh every time more than compensate.

Once you're hooked on 'ponics, you'll never look back.

Well.. it still keeps crossing my mind every time I have to haul the plants to the bathtub to feed/flush etc.. Can you suggest some reading material that I could study for a bit? I really dont like buying soil in winter. Only problem is no hydro shop here so everything will have to be mail order..

BTW.. here is a link to a thread I started: 1st Indoor in progress. Flowering, propagation etc... PICS!
It has some pictures of my space and how its divided. Check it out and let me know what you think. Im gonna go hit the Sobe

Al B. Fuct · #**102** 04-04-2008, 04:19 AM

Mail ordering can get very exxy, particularly for weighty items like media and nutes. I have to drive 200km round trip to my hydro shop, $25-30 worth of petrol in me old ute, but I can buy months' worth of supplies at a time. I only go a few times a year. It'd cost $25 just to get a bag of Fytocell and some nutes out here by courier.

If it's at all possible, you may want to drive to the next town where there IS a hydro shop rather than paying S&H rates.

Some growing methods, while truly most suitable for advanced growers, eliminate all media. Aeroponic systems can be medialess, so you really only need nutes and H2O2. Buy your nutes in 25L jugs and you may only need to go to a hydro shop 1x a year.

The GrowFAQ is as good a place as any for comparative analyses of hydro systems.

SomeGuy · #**103** 04-04-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct

Mail ordering can get very exxy, particularly for weighty items like media and nutes. I have to drive 200km round trip to my hydro shop, $25-30 worth of petrol in me old ute, but I can buy months' worth of supplies at a time. I only go a few times a year. It'd cost $25 just to get a bag of Fytocell and some nutes out here by courier.

If it's at all possible, you may want to drive to the next town where there IS a hydro shop rather than paying S&H rates.

Some growing methods, while truly most suitable for advanced growers, eliminate all media. Aeroponic systems can be medialess, so you really only need nutes and H2O2. Buy your nutes in 25L jugs and you may only need to go to a hydro shop 1x a year.

The GrowFAQ is as good a place as any for comparative analyses of hydro systems.

Thanks Al, Ill start reading up. Ive checked into aero and bubble... Looks simple so I may rig something up.

Al B. Fuct · #**104** 04-04-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeGuy

Thanks Al, Ill start reading up. Ive checked into aero and bubble... Looks simple so I may rig something up.

Be careful- like I said, aero etc are really best for advanced growers with a good understanding of hydroponics. Medialess systems are sensitive to things that those with pots of absorbent media will not be as sensitive to. DWC (bubblers), aero & NFT require close monitoring and control of nute soln strength, pH and temp.

However, DWC/bubble has a particular Achilles heel- it requires a 24/7 air supply to bubble curtains or air stones. A power or air pump failure lasting more than about 4-6 hours can kill every plant in a DWC because the roots are constantly submerged in a nute solution. Loss of aeration, through power or pump failure, is big trouble. Redundant pumps and even backup power for them are not bad ideas for DWC.

The most fault-tolerant systems of all are flood and wick systems. They don't care so much about res temps, but pH & nute strengths still need to be maintained in a range. A water pump in a flood sys can quit but you will still have 24-48 hours to catch it before there's any big problems. Wick systems have no pumps at all.

shorty45 · #**105** 04-04-2008, 04:14 PM

awesome set up, might try at next harvest

lumberjack_ian · #**106** 04-04-2008, 05:34 PM

al b... what do you think about using small hempy buckets for a sog? any experience with 'em?

Al B. Fuct · #**107** 04-04-2008, 10:12 PM

No experience with them, LJI. Their evangelists swear Hempys do not rot roots, but the bottoms of the pots are flooded all the time. Counterintuitive. If you need a pumpless system, a wick is a surer thing IMO.

DaSprout · #**108** 04-04-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjack_ian

al b... what do you think about using small hempy buckets for a sog? any experience with 'em?

You planning on going "hempy" LI?
I think I might have the hempy itch also. I planning on trying a couple in the left over spaces in the op i'm assembling.

Irradiate

VictorVIcious · #**109** 04-04-2008, 10:49 PM

I gotta say this is the funniest bud dryer conversation I have ever witnessed, preachon Brother Al. Did you notice I finally bought a ph meter. It hasn't been 2 years yet. VV

lumberjack_ian · #**110** 04-04-2008, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaSprout

You planning on going "hempy" LI?
I think I might have the hempy itch also. I planning on trying a couple in the left over spaces in the op i'm assembling.

Irradiate

haha
been doing

and i have not seen any effects of root rot...but i do let the internal "res" mostly dry out before rewatering...

al... once i get enough moms to make enough cuts and am proficient enough at rooting, i'm going to start runs of a true SOG with 0 veg time... as of now i'm vegging out plant 8-12 inches tall then lollypopping them with like 1/sq ft... i'll be sure to let you knwo how it turns out (32 oz. cups filled with perlite hempy style, i'm looking for really simply fairly fault resistent growing here)

my buddy was thinking of rigging up an ebb and flow setup to actually water hempy buckets... filling up the containers through the drainage hole on each and flooding out the same hole when draining... basically setting up an automated watering system for the buckets without messing with drippers that would seem to get clogged easier than a pump used for E&F...
plus the flood would only need to occur every other day or so, because of the internal res' of the hempy buckets...

i dunno whats gonna happen, but i find it quite interesting...
oh, and sorry for the bit of a thread jack...