Smells like hay. HELP!!!

**ganjaluvr** · 08-13-2010, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by riddleme

have to disagree on the yellowing of the leaves, as our indoor gardens are not affected by fall (autumn), it's all about the abuse of high P foods absence of N my friend and should not be that way

No no no.. I'm not saying that your/my plants are affected by fall (autumn).. I'm saying that as a plant gets closer and closer to its "peak" flowering time.. the more yellowing of the leaves you'll see.. because cannabis plants tend to do the same thing that trees do.. during fall (autumn). They look for any food/water that's been stored/kept inside the leafs of the plant.. and they use that food/water up because the plant begins to panic because its not getting the nutes/water that its used to getting (like at the beginning of its life). And when they use up any food/water that's in each of its leafs, those leafs begin to wilt/die.. and some even fall off the plant on their own.

I wasn't saying anything about the plants being affected by fall (outdoor) conditions. Of course, as you also grow indoors just like I do.

I was merely trying to explain why cannabis plants "autumn up". I've done my homework..

peace.

**Murfy** · 08-13-2010, 09:40 AM

i ahve never had a strain like this either-

but i do think this one knows it's gettin ripe. they are still going. those pics are what riddle? 5 days old? they are going through a major spurt of new pistil growth, and there are no amber or gold trich's. so i'm gonna let them go. today is day 58.

they are very spicy, like pepper, with a tinge of fruity.same as the guy i got the clones from. but when i went in at lights on this morning, SKUNKY! way better than his.

i figure they have at least another week and a half.

i use almost the same techniques as riddle, uncle ben, and others. i ahve been able to keep plants very green and lush, until past due, then revegged them. there's no way these would revegg.maybe riddle could! not me though. although my new DIY bubble cloner can make clones in a week and a half, from a month in soil.

this strain was cross bred with an alaskan? strain. i ahve tried to do some research on it and can't find much. maybe that's why it turns colors like it does?

**DaveCoulier** · 08-13-2010, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by ganjaluvr

Riddleme, my friend.. I've been saying the same damn thing for I don't even know how long. Good to know that there's at least two of us, you and I, that understand and appreciate the importance of being patient while growing/drying/curing.

As for the drying comment though, I kinda have to disagree with you on that. Drying times, are all different and unique in their own way. Not everyone's bud is going to take the same amount of time to dry and or cure. Each environment (temps and humidity) differentiate between every grower.. and the environment that they grow/dry/cure in.

and as for plants leafs yellowing, more and more as the plant gets further into flowering.. the more yellowing your going to see. It's a fact. It's the same thing as when the 'Fall season' comes around.. and we all start seeing all the trees lose their leafs. There's a reason that the trees do this.. they trying to use up any food/water that might be left stored in the plants/trees leafs.. and this is what causes them to turn yellow or as most of us know its called 'Autumn-ing up', which is the process where the tree/plant uses up any trace food/water elements that the plant/tree's leafs have stored inside.. which in return causes the leafs to "Autumn Up".

But yeah, this is called "Autumn(ing) up". Just thought I would share that with ya.

peace.

Your definition of senescence is wrong. If the trees used up all the nutrients in the leaves, then how would it grow new leaves at the beginning of spring when it is barren?

Leaf senescence occurs in trees because there isn't enough light in fall & winter to maintain growth. Chlorophyll production comes to a halt, so the plants begin to reallocate nutrients and water to stems, bark, and the roots. Come spring, these reserves are tapped to fuel new foliage. Now if you actually used outdoor lighting you can actually prevent leaf senescence in trees.

MJ shouldn't experience senescence imo, since she is an annual. Of course leaves still turn yellow and die, but thats because people are under-feeding their plants(EDIT: Leaf yellowing is also caused by other factors, such as moisture stress, excessive nutrients, etc). The plants needs for nutrients during flowering is very high, and if someone chooses to under feed their plants, then they will experience what they falsely believe is leaf senescence.

**riddleme** · 08-13-2010, 01:31 PM

What he said ^^^^^

**Murfy** · 08-13-2010, 01:42 PM

this is very interesting dave-

is that what you think my plants are? underfed? i don't think i could give them more N.

i ahve read most of your stuff as well. i feed dyna foliage pro(2x), jack's duo(2xbloom to 1x allpurpose), rotated, silica, and molasses. last time i fed them i super juiced them just in case they needed it to finish. i'm pretty sure they're not hungry. i couldn't see feedin them more.

**Murfy** · 08-13-2010, 01:45 PM

let's move back to the calling all noobs thread-

i would like to talk more on this.

**riddleme** · 08-13-2010, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Murfy

let's move back to the calling all noobs thread-

i would like to talk more on this.

I'm always there as you know, but I think yours is a strain thingy?

**DaveCoulier** · 08-13-2010, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Murfy

this is very interesting dave-

is that what you think my plants are? underfed? i don't think i could give them more N.

i ahve read most of your stuff as well. i feed dyna foliage pro(2x), jack's duo(2xbloom to 1x allpurpose), rotated, silica, and molasses. last time i fed them i super juiced them just in case they needed it to finish. i'm pretty sure they're not hungry. i couldn't see feedin them more.

I edited my original post to give more reasons why plants yellow, and leaves die off.

In your case I dont think its under-feeding. There is something very wrong about your plants. They are not at all healthy looking. The badly clawed leaves is most likely indicating a problem in the root zone(excessive nutrients). If there are too many nutrients in the rootzone, it will inhibit your plants ability to uptake nutrients resulting in yellowing leaves that are dieing, among other problems.

I also saw some nutrient burn on the tips of your bud leaves, that makes me think maybe they've been fed too much.

**snoozedragon** · 08-13-2010, 03:29 PM

yeah they just need to cure to start smelling great

**autobluberry** · 01-26-2012, 08:22 AM

yo thats not true i cant remeber who said it but somebuddy sayed your weed will smell like fresh cut grass if it isent ready if when you take you plant down and its ready if you dont handle the bud at all just use garden shears to trim it right after you chop the leaves it will smell like fresh cut grass one the spot you cut into dry it stops smelling like freh cut grass and you can mell the tric's then after drying out completely your bud will smell like hay its not because you grew it in a barn this is a huge misconception marijuana usuall smells like hay if its been dryed properly and once you cure it the hay smell will go away. some strains trics have a stronger odor all together and over power the hay smell from the get go mainly heavy kush strains but some strains trics have sweet suddle odors these strains will smell more like hay when dryed properly. now take a bud out of your jar an sqeeze it alittle bit you will break some of the trics then smell it it should smell sweet like weed should be throw it back in the jar and leave it be patient is key.