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    Yea as the name implies this thread is about bud that isn't starved before it's harvested a.k.a "flushed" Yes there has been many many arguments about flushing vs not flushing. and yet Everyone who is for flushing does it because someone they know, or someone who is their customer/client does it or asks for it. The people who belief that marijuana is like every other living fucking plant and doesn't need flush have all done expirements and have found out for themselves.

    Ok so I don't flush my bud, and my nugs don't burn harsh nor do they get "black or sparky" for all of you that don't know, this is do to a shitty cure not because nutrients magically moved through the roots up the plant stock (if you have troubles believing this just look up how PLANTS take up nutrients, yes MJ is a plant like any other) and decided to just make a home in your buds. If you understood how plants work or had common sense you'd realize that starving something when it's in it's most crucial stages is iresponsible as a grower. Furthermore no one in the history of agriculture flushes their product, the tobacco industry doesn't flush. Why is marijuana so magically different? It's not, so quit trying to make it something more than it is.

    Out of 3 blind taste tests NO ONE has ever been able to tell a difference in flushed and unflushed (with a proper cure). If you want to argue that you can taste a difference please explain how you came up with these results as I am always trying to figure out where this theory has actual facts too it. I am always open to intellectual positive conversation. Of course the majority of people who flush don't have intellectual answers to why they flush, they just do. STOP micromanaging a weed. If you grew the plant correctly to begin with your gonna have bomb as nug regardless. If you cure your bud properly you won't have the harsh smoke that is blamed on non-flushed weed. Like I've said I've done this expirement 3 times because someone has somewhat of a point so I test it out again thinking I missed something yet there never is anything different. Also something to remember a Plant is like Us (humans) we all differ from one another in some way. I just recently harvested two plants of the same strain that both tasted completely different after cure. So I can see how easily people can mispercieve their judgments on taste but You have to understand that nothing in this world benifits from starving and eating off of itself the last few weeks of it's life.

    Please fire back with arguments Im open to hear legit answers.

    I also figured this would be a good place to show off our "unflushed" babies and how horrible they look/taste since we didn't starve them. Guess you wouldn't smoke this huh?
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    Im am fucking sick of these arguments. There are legit reasons a flush would be necessary, and excess (usually alot of it) can cause chemically tasting weed. I just got the grow bible by cervantes to go along with my one by green (both great).
    "how to tell when fertilizer will affect taste:
    1. leaf tips and fringes are burnt
    2. leaves are brittle at harvest
    3. buds crackle when burning
    4. buds smell like chemicals
    5. buds taste like fertilizer"
    On page 76 it says "ten to fourteen days before harvest, flush the garden with distilled water or water treated with reverse osmosis"

    Im not saying it is always needed, but certainly sometimes is.
    Tell me Cervantes is wrong people. Cmon
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    I just had to reply! ok first things first, i can i agree with some of what you say, ut i think it depends of the type of grow ur doind, soil?, hydro? , perlite?, coco? they all hold nutrients differently, and towards the end of a plants flower cycle, it needs less and less nitrogen, so flushing in theory, will bring this nitrogen down. this will make a difference in taste, and how it smokes. i flush , i use 100% perlite and i flush 7 days prior to harvest, i think this is plenty enough fresh water for the plant to ingest, and let the plant have its it own original flavour, i have tried otherwise, and prefer this method. i cure slowly in jars and i have people falling asleep during the day on my shit, sparkles like magic! dnt go using those damn trimming machines, goodbye quality. no arguments talk to the pros
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    i also believe in this i noticed no difference in flushed vs not flushed weed smells like hay only when u dry too fast..

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    Quote Originally Posted by falsebreed View Post
    i also believe in this i noticed no difference in flushed vs not flushed weed smells like hay only when u dry too fast..
    I personally see little difference whether I flush or not as well, dispite my post. Im saying in some peoples cases it is needed, if they maximize nutes and use lots of synthetics (humbolt county was found to have carcinogens if I recall) it would help to flush and let the plant finish just with water.

    That said I dont see much difference even with curing. One strain I have tastes good no matter if its 1 weeks cure or if its 1 month, danky stinky smell and taste. Even if its strait dried no cure, just abit harsher.
    So both flushing and curing are sometimes overrated...
    Now I expect to get yelled at for saying curing can be overrated....
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    to prove this, and THIS WILL PROVE IT!!!. get a nug that is harsh, probably due to chems, (dry ofcourse), and water cure it over 7 days, with fresh water every day, then on day 7 hang to dry again, does not harm potency, as thc is not water soluble, and try the difference, i bet u will, smooth as and it will smell sweeter aswell
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowamasta View Post
    to prove this, and THIS WILL PROVE IT!!!. get a nug that is harsh, probably due to chems, (dry ofcourse), and water cure it over 7 days, with fresh water every day, then on day 7 hang to dry again, does not harm potency, as thc is not water soluble, and try the difference, i bet u will, smooth as and it will smell sweeter aswell
    so is it that the bud was not cured properly in the first place so water cure does cure it properly? So how much fertilizer is used changes how much cure is needed to get rid of the chems? I thought it was mainly chlorophyl that was "sweat out" during curing.

    Most important question- is it only chlorophyl thats sweat out during cure or other chemicals as well? A list if theres more would be helpful.
    I can work with the that.

    Hypothesis:
    curing is not as necessary if there are less synthetic chems and less fertilizer (and built up salts) in the soil when the plant is cut down.

    discuss
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowamasta View Post
    to prove this, and THIS WILL PROVE IT!!!. get a nug that is harsh, probably due to chems, (dry ofcourse), and water cure it over 7 days, with fresh water every day, then on day 7 hang to dry again, does not harm potency, as thc is not water soluble, and try the difference, i bet u will, smooth as and it will smell sweeter aswell
    you prove nothing, just bring more questions.
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    I have no fact backing this, but I dont know ur right. I think that some chems that are in a plant (specifically in mj flowers) and all built up (or in excess) are stuck there, unremovable after cutting it down by curing or any other method. but I could be wrong.
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    When you flush in soil plants will still get some nutes,in hydro you're starving them.I'm hydro,Icut the nutes back some the last week,not that much tho.
    I tried flushing for 1 week and felt I was depriving my plants.
    I could not tell the differance in taste.

    Sirlancelot beautiful,nice job.I'll smoke with ya brotha man!

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