i've spent 3 years here helping people and it's all been tossed out the window for magic tricks. i'm done.

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your being a bit dramatic dont you think? magic tricks?

ive done side by sides with flushed and un flushed, both cured and uncured. IMO, once cure well, unflushed tastes just as good as the flushed weed.

you dont need to take your ball and go home. youve said it yourself a hundred times, this is a forum for people to express thier opinions.



i still dont know what you meant by hermies?

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you don't know what a hermie is?

so if there is no difference between flushed and unflushed i will continue to flush.


in nature, where plants naturally grow, it rains in the fall. the soil gets flushed naturally at the end of the flowering cycle. the nutes run out and the plants colors change. this is often the cause of some of your purple colors. i prefer to keep it real.


how could it be good to smoke a plant that is LOADED FULL OF NUTES?

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Im going to have to agree with fdd here, it may not be necessary but it makes a difference IMHO, and no i wouldnt starve a healthy child but i wouldnt chop one up and smoke one either. Is aging a steak necessary? Ever tried an aged steak?

i know what a hermie is what is thier relavence to this discussion?

i think the rain in the fall argument is weak. so what replaces all those nutes by springtime? what about dryer regions?

im not starting the Church of No Flushing and im not looking for converts. continue growing as you have been, its obvious to you know what your doing. i will continue growing the way i do.

ill take the pepsi challenge anytime.

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but did they starve that cow for a week prior to slaughter? force it to drink gallons and gallons of water? the weed im talking about is aged just like that steak. poor arguement IMO.

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the relevance is, ....

there are 100 threads on the boards about how hermies are the greatest thing ever for feminized seeds. what a load of crap. now this "don't need to flush" shit pops up as well. it's all BS.




what replaces the nutes is the dead foliage. you know compost. how it get there in the first place.

why does everything turn yellow in the fall? you don't want opinions, you want to argue. this is why i took my ball.

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well thats because i wasnt comparing flushing to aging, just showing that just because it doesnt seem natural doesnt mean it isnt a good idea, that didnt seem that hard.

i dont care for fem seeds myself, i like males AND seeds. but over ripening IS one of the methods they use for making fem seeds. if these threads you speak of are talking about other kinds of hermies well, the board has always been full of crap advise. anyone who takes something on the internet as gospel without checking themselves is a fool.

EDIT: and i know what compost is. you really think all the nutes get washed away every fall and replaces every spring? its a constant process.

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That might cause a problem or two for the person in the future.

Only people who have never flushed or never sampled herb where some was flushed and the rest was not so they could then tell the difference would believe flushing makes no difference. KEEP UP YOUR FLUSHING FOR SURE!



I think someone could only claim it is/was nature’s plan for marijuana plants to be flushed if they just assume that the life cycle of marijuana plants were timed to end at least somewhat in relation to fall rains so they would be flushed but I do not believe that to be the case because I doubt that nature’s intent was for marijuana plant ‘buds’ to be smoked. I highly doubt that evolution planned for smoking plants, of any type, and instead it was just that man found that smoking certain parts of certain plants to be pleasurable.
　
To say there was intention for natural flushing so what was smoked would be better tasting and smoother would imply some logical rational thought process behind such a planned creation and that means intelligent design or God or whatever higher power someone chooses to pick was behind it all.
　
Evolution is merely an extremely long lasting incredibly vast uncontrolled experiment where constant experimentation occurs but not with a set long-term goal or use in mind. It only looks for better and not to meet or exceed the set minimum requirements of some thought out plan.
　
Lacking intelligent thought/intelligent design driving/controlling nature, nature would never have foreseen marijuana plants being smoked so it would not then evolve in a way to make them better smoking due to timing their lifecycle with natural weather cycles, like fall rains flushing the soil. Again evolution looks for improvements but not based on ones that will when combined lead them to a specific set long-term goal.
　
Doesn’t it just make more sense that plants were made/evolved to use the maximum amount of light possible for the longest period of time and then still be able fully mature to assure that they’re reproduction needs to sustain the species have been met, that seeds had been made and many dropped and they would then be spread by natural forces/acts, possibly even fall rains washing some down hill to then be trapped in some location where in the spring it would then grow and with some luck help to further the spread and survival of the species?
　
That seems to be by very many seed producing/reproducing plants do it and few are used for any purpose other than decoration so it is not like they needed a fall flush to be pretty earlier in the season when they would have been used for decorative purposes. But by making the most of a growing season it improves the chances of survival of the species and the spreading of the species.
　
In the fall many small animals will stored up seeds and smaller nuts for winter-feeding. Some will be dropped along the way and left and the plant species just spread its range. Birds will eat seeds but not digest them and they will be deposited in other areas. The fall rains will settle them into looser soil and on hard soil or rock wash them to cracks or onto soil where they will then settle or maybe just be covered over my loose soft soil that washes over them and then they spend the winter dormant and in the spring, given decent conditions, they will germinate and grow.
　
Lacking intelligent design/intelligent planning that intended for man to enjoy cannabis plants through smoking their buds the timing of their life cycle obviously was the chosen successful evolutionary step that best assured the survival and spreading and not at all involving any possible consideration of what some unplanned creature may or may not one day have learned about the plant having some enjoyment and or medical properties so just in case that eventuality might occur the plant should evolve and then grow/live according to what will best meet the likes or dislikes and tastes of some unknown creature that might possibly one day evolve and who may or may not discover uses for the plant and what uses they might be and what the unknown creature will like best in certain usages.
　
Doesn’t seem to make more sense that at some point after man learned that smoking certain portions of plants was indeed pleasurable and or medicinal that they then set out to find ways try to increase their enjoyment and to try to increase medicinal qualities and then learned about flushing and it had nothing to do with nature’s plan?
　
It appears that possibly the dots you connected to claim fall rains are nature’s way of saying marijuana should be flushed for the best fullest flavor would be something like connecting two dots from two totally different connect the dots picture books and therefore be totally unable to create any intended to be found picture unless you are claiming that intelligent design of some sort is at play. Lacking that there would be no logic or rationale behind your position.




That explanation can be found in the category of what many use to justify and validate what they do. They call it personal preference and that explains it all away and makes it fine and dandy.
　
If it works well enough for them and if they are satisfied they stick with it. To them it is not that they are doing something that is not the best but instead they are doing what is best for them, what they like but it is really more of doing what is just good enough for them even though they fail to see it that way.
　
Everyone has their own list of priorities. Some are skewed by lack of knowledge and or experience in relation to others but to each person their priorities are valid for them. I know guys that would rather smoke something that tasted worse than moldy hamster turds than smoke a very high quality herb that had been properly dried and properly cured and is as smooth as herb could ever get if the herb that tasted worse than moldy hamster turds got them just a tiny bit more buzzed.
　
If someone has out of whack priorities, for whatever reason or reasons, and is totally pleased with them or just doesn’t care then there is no use attempting to convince them that your priority list is better or the reasons behind it are more valid or whatever.

To them they already know so nothing you can tell them will likely be allowed to be considered let alone accepted and then adopted and followed/used changing their priority list in the process.

And remember …. after all it all does come down to nothing more than personal preference, right?

That is the get out of jail free card for anyone to use if they do not want to admit, or maybe simply cannot accept and therefore could not admit that what they do it not as good as they could otherwise do.

It works for me, I like it, it is my preference so that makes it totally valid and totally acceptable thus what I do is correct, the best way to do things, at least for me anyway.

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