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Old 05-24-2008, 06:33 PM
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Just a question...


Why would it matter, doesn't the butane wet the plant anyways, just like in a water hash extraction when using water the plant WILL be wet, so what is the difference?

Not arguing in any way shape or form on this one as I have never done this, I am just curious why it would make a difference and want to understand better. The one quote said a molecule needs to drop off and this is accomplished during the drying stage. Now this is plausible and sounds like it could make sense, but if this is NOT the case and the molecule explanation is not true, then, I would figure since TCH is not water soluble the plant being wet or dry should not affect the actual THC during this type of extraction.

Now, if the H2O in the plant when it is wet, interacts with the butane in a negative manner, then I understand why it should not be wet. What I am trying to say is, if the water allows the plant matter to secrete other material like chlorophyl into the final product making it taste bad or not come out the way it should, this would also make sense as to why to do it dry.
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people say that all of the butane evaporates when thats not true, there is some chemical left behind
This is true, there are further steps to purify your oil.

After your butane evaporates, its often a dark amber, or orangish color, and some say its still smokeable, which it is if you really want to... To get rid of the rest of the butane simply get some 99.9% iso. alcohol and gather up all the thick oil by adding the iso alc. this will make it easier to get into drem viles if you wanted too. once you have the oil in your glass vile or any other glass bowl you will want to boil off the iso alcohol under low heat. I've used crock pots.
Simply fill the crock pot half way with water, put a plate or a bowl under the water to keep your glass container with your oil from touching the bottom, and turn it on med/high, just be careful when boiling off iso.
Do this outside if you can, somewhere with very good ventilation.

Once your done your oil will actually clear up to an alomost yellow, or honey color and ready to smoke. I've heard that medical grade alcohol can result in an almost clear oil...


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This is off topic but how about the bubble bucket method?

Can the buds and leaves can be wet then?
No you always want dry product when making hash of any sort.

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Thanks ThunderLips. Kinda thought so but wasn't 100% sure.

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i don't think the weed gets wet, butane is such a low temp don't you think it gets freezedried? dont know im no mad scientist, but i do like honey.. question tho, if the butane doesn't completley evaporate, does it really matter beng that we liht it with butane? isnt it the same risk of chemicals? also, if you buy 100% butane it should all boil off at room temperature.. just collect it in a casserole dish and set it in a pan of warm water after, the butane boils out in like 10 min. i wait a couple days to be sure before i smoke it.ofcourse water extraction is best method, but butane method costs half as much.
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no one was talking about hash my friend....hash doesn't hold a candle to actual OIL!!! altho i do use hash to make my oil sumtimes...very good...and as far as the chemicals left behind? no more residual chemicals than there would be in your bowl or blunt from lighting it w/ a BUTANE lighter.... its tha same diff... if yur gunna try to be hella super natural then go get yurself a vaporizer...they're so raw...
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honey oil through butane is not a good idea man, people say that all of the butane evaporates when thats not true, there is some chemical left behind, the best way to make hash is through sifting it through screens or cold water extraction with bubble bags, just looking out for a fellow toker man, peace
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valid question..butane isn't H20.. its an entirely diff chemical that doesn't hold the same properties as water. when weed touches H20 it loses and dilutes sum of its psychoactive properties, when the chemicals in butane interact w/ the THC, the THC is actually extracted. u can do this as well with isopropyl(rubbing alcohol, pref. 99%) but the plus w/ butane is that the pressurized can causes for the process to be quick so that your oil will have mostly THC, and not other plant matter and chlorophil that would dissolve and dilute your oil as well after prolonged exposure to the extraction agent.

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Why would it matter, doesn't the butane wet the plant anyways, just like in a water hash extraction when using water the plant WILL be wet, so what is the difference?

Not arguing in any way shape or form on this one as I have never done this, I am just curious why it would make a difference and want to understand better. The one quote said a molecule needs to drop off and this is accomplished during the drying stage. Now this is plausible and sounds like it could make sense, but if this is NOT the case and the molecule explanation is not true, then, I would figure since TCH is not water soluble the plant being wet or dry should not affect the actual THC during this type of extraction.

Now, if the H2O in the plant when it is wet, interacts with the butane in a negative manner, then I understand why it should not be wet. What I am trying to say is, if the water allows the plant matter to secrete other material like chlorophyl into the final product making it taste bad or not come out the way it should, this would also make sense as to why to do it dry.
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Well anyone know if its not a smart idea to use weed that was frozen right after cut, i.e. wet, to make bubble hash. I get mixed answers and i just tried and had a very small yield for an entire plant. :0( good quality hashish but still, so much work for so little. Any input would be apprieciated.
 

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