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Old 09-10-2009, 12:11 PM
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Post I need to talk sativa
Howdy ya'll. I need, to talk sativa.

I have a 100% sativa strain halfway done flushing here in the ninth week. nearly all of the trichomes are milky.

I've cut one of the many colas off the plant, and have fast dried it over three days,

as well as dissolved some blond hash off of my trimmings,

And I have to say I am disappointed that there is very little body to the high,

it is all in the head.

I wanted to flower until the plant looked ripe, when it was done sucking on nutes, and when all the calyx's have swelled like baloons, and i think i have the timing down on this for a finish a week from now.

However,
the further I go,

Is this all head high only going to become more "busy", less "clean", and much more "exhausting" and "stupefying"? The hash was overpowering. It was most certainly a trip. Is this trip only going to become... more "busy" here on out?
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I love sativa for the head high. My last sativa grow flowered for 90-110 days (i had several plants and 2 different strains). The high is just that and very powerful. No stoopidness.
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... So what does a finished sativa look like? a finished sativa?

Wait,

I still have to wait longer?

Fuck. /
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i have a plant that is 14-15 weeks into flowering and still has a few left. i accidentely broke off a bud so i dried it and smoked it. i have to admit, it was like crack. i was really dodgy and talkitive. like you said very busy. i have never been high like that from weed.

ya, i would assume the longer you let it go the more up/powerful it will be. 9 weeks isnt that long for a pure sativa. 12-20 weeks is possible, i would say 14 weeks+ normally for a pure sativa.

here are 2 pics of mine at 13 weeks. not sure if it is a pure sativa, but close enough. Thai x super skunk. as you can see, nowhere near close
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I have Nevilles going right now (90% sativa) and one small stem broke off due to weight. It smoked so great. It will also take at least 12 weeks. Some sativas are known to take a long fucking time. You just have to wait it out. The yield is usually fairly average at best but the high is, for some, the best you can get. Great day smoke if cut right.
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wait.,, is't sativa bag seed
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A 100% sativa would not be done in only 9 weeks, it also wouldn't have cloudy trich's yet either.

What do you really have, and from where?
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wait.,, is't sativa bag seed


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Howdy ya'll. I need, to talk sativa.

I have a 100% sativa strain halfway done flushing here in the ninth week. nearly all of the trichomes are milky.

I've cut one of the many colas off the plant, and have fast dried it over three days,

as well as dissolved some blond hash off of my trimmings,

And I have to say I am disappointed that there is very little body to the high,

it is all in the head.

I wanted to flower until the plant looked ripe, when it was done sucking on nutes, and when all the calyx's have swelled like baloons, and i think i have the timing down on this for a finish a week from now.

However,
the further I go,

Is this all head high only going to become more "busy", less "clean", and much more "exhausting" and "stupefying"? The hash was overpowering. It was most certainly a trip. Is this trip only going to become... more "busy" here on out?


This is not meant to be rude but I have to believe that either you do not know what you are growing or do not know what you are looking at or do not know what you are doing, or some combination of the three, and almost certainly do not know the differences between a sativa and an indica when it comes to their effects if you expected and thought you would or could get an indica body stone from a sativa.
 
A 100% sativa will seldom finish flowering in only 9 weeks and of those that do there have been questions as to their actual purity.

The famous Panama Red could take as much as 22 week to finish even when grown in its natural climate region, 18 to 20+ weeks is considered to be normal for it.

Do you really know you grew a 100% pure sativa? If so what strain is it?

Durban Poison can finish flowering in 8 to 9 weeks but at least some, if not all, Durban Poison seeds sold today are not 100% pure sativa even though they are often claimed to be. Most if not all are only predominantly sativa.
 
An example. Nirvana Durban Poison: Durban Poison is a F1 cross of a sativa strain from a "secret garden" located just outside Durban, South Africa and a potent, early Dutch skunk
 
Durban Poison from Hemcy is also a cross, though again like Nirvana’s it is predominantly sativa.
 
While you may have something that is predominantly sativa I tend to believe it is not 100% pure sativa, and likely not a landrace sativa, an early, cultivated form of a crop species, evolved from a wild population, and generally composed of a heterogeneous mixture of genotypes.
 
You seem to want a body stone but anyone who knows anything about marijuana knows a sativa gives you a clear soaring inspirational motivational head high and indica gives you a semi-catatonic couch-lock body stone. If you grew a sativa, pure or a predominantly sativa cross you chose the wrong thing to grow if you want a body stone.
 
If your trichomes are in fact nearly all milky your plant’s THC level has peaked and it will not get any higher. If you wait until some or most are amber you will dull the head high some but with a true pure sativa it will not turn it into a couch-lock indica.

In other words you might want to consider harvesting before your trichomes turn mostly to fully amber. When that happens the THC is oxidizing and is being lost and it is being replaced by CBN.
 
You said that you: "to flower until the plant looked ripe.." if you have milky white/cloudy trichomes then if you consider maximum THC production to be ripe or ripeness then your plants are now ripe.
 
You said the "hash" was overpowering. Well good hash can be that way. All hash is, is the collection of resin-heads, which is where THC is created and the only place on the plant that it is created and found, and then combining them into a highly condensed form.
 
It does not increase the potency of the actual THC, that remains the same as the THC level it had when still part of the plant.

For example you cannot take two resin-heads of equal size and percentage of THC and combine them and end up with THC that is twice as potent, you only have twice as much THC of the exact same potency now combined into one resin-head.
 
When you make hash you collect the resin-heads and then make them into a highly condensed form.

When you take one hit of hash it is like taking say 5 or maybe 10 hits of the bud from the plant the hash was made from. If you take two hits of hash it is like taking 10 or maybe 20 hits of bud from the same plant the hash was made from and if you took three hits of hash it would be like taking 15 or maybe 30 hits of the bud from the plant the hash was made from.
 
The actual potency of the THC was not increased at all by making hash. It was just transformed into a form that when smoked with each toke you then take in a massive amount more of the same potency THC than if it were still bud. So of course if the plant had a decent to high potency level of THC hash from it would be "overpowering."
 
Something is rotten in Denmark, or somewhere anyway. I tend to think that you did not grow what you think you grew, possibly a sativa/indica cross that has at least some visual sativa appearance to it and mostly a head high but still enough indica to shorten the flowering growth period length of time

Cannabis indica


The marijuana produced by indica plants is generally higher in CBD and lower in THC than sativa plants. This means marijuana from a pure Cannabis indica strain will produce a heavier, sleepy type of stone (when compared with marijuana from a Cannabis sativa plant).

Cannabis sativa

The marijuana produced by sativa plants is generally higher in THC and lower in CBD than indica plants.

This means marijuana from a pure Cannabis sativa strain will produce a more clear headed, energetic type of high.
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wait.,, is't sativa bag seed


Uhhhhhhh … no.

Sativa equates to extremely high quality/high potency marijuana.
 
Ever hear of the following strains?
Colombian Gold?
Acapulco Gold?
Dalat?
Panama Red?
Malawi Gold?
Oaxaca Gold?
Ever sample any sativas from Thailand? Ever smoke any Thai stick by chance?
 
Pure strains of some of those, in particular Dalat, would make many so-called hard core experienced smokers, especially of today, cry for their mommies due to their incredible potency.
 
Bagseed simply means seeds found in a bag of seedy pot, normally due to it being seedy it is less than high quality.
 
Scientific Classification Of Cannabis

Kingdom: Plantae
Division: Magnoliophyta
Class: Magnoliopsida
Order: Rosales
Family: Cannabaceae
Genus: Cannabis

The cannabis genus is made up of three species, they are Cannabis indica, Cannabis ruderalis, and Cannabis sativa.

Sativa does not equate to bagseed, though I do feel sure what you said was actually a weak attempt at humor

You know, as in you not being a marijuana connoisseur and therefore an indica lover, possibly because you were never lucky enough in life to experience the real true sativas of the past, so you attempted to try to make sativa appear to be low quality by saying; "wait.,, is't sativa bag seed?"
 

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